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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #44 from previous page: April 09, 2003, 02:38:37 PM »
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mdma wrote:
Why would it be suicide?

Is it suicide for RedHat, SuSE, et al releasing their code? No it isn't.



erhm, the linux guys live from consultancies. RedHat certified engineer bla bla bla kinda stuf. not much in that for MOS.
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2003, 05:51:43 PM »
You are such an idiot, "KennyG"

praxis? PRAXIS? **PRAXIS**?

The phrase is "isn't very useful in practice". Praxis is
a Klingon moon, you dolt.


 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2003, 06:15:02 PM »
Praxis is the greek word for act, action, deed, practice etc.
what`s your problem with that? even the word practice (which is also greek)  you used derives from praxis. the phrase is right, you can use both words.
Practice = TT P A K T I K H pronounced praktiki.   with "a" as in cut, and "i" as in kill

(and both are part of the english lexicon :P)
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2003, 10:51:42 PM »
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2003, 11:21:14 PM »
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I`ll buy an AmigaOne or a Pegasos because it runs my beloved OS, that is the only reason that I`ll spend my money on these machines. An no UAE and Amithlon is not an option, they are emulators, not a real computer.

Note that both AmigaOS 4.0 and MorphOS has an emulated 68k layers/modules...
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2003, 11:29:09 PM »
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Because it's not PPC. Why else by a peg/a1? TheOS is largely irrelevant.

Note that AROS doesn’t run legacy software on non-68k machine.  IF it doesn’t run Amiga legacy software, why not switch to completely new OS platform (e.g. BeOS, Linux, BSD and ‘etc’)?  
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2003, 11:39:45 PM »
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Note that both AmigaOS 4.0 and MorphOS has an emulated 68k layers/modules...

So? will I remain for the rest of my life with 68k (even if it is emulated in a PPC cpu) software? Life goes on... I believe that the most important apps will be ported and new will be developed. (isn`t that the plan?)

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Note that AROS doesn’t run legacy software on non-68k machine. IF it doesn’t run Amiga legacy software, why not switch to completely new OS platform (e.g. BeOS, Linux, BSD and ‘etc’)?

So?
1> as I said many apps will be ported and new will be developed.
2> `Cause it`s AmigaOS (or AmigaOS-like if you like) and that`s my favorite OS. Simple.
Or do you stay with this platform only for its apps? Do you think that all these OSes have less apps or worse than ours? (Well maybe  BeOS :PPP)
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2003, 02:09:02 AM »
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So? will I remain for the rest of my life with 68k (even if it is emulated in a PPC cpu) software?

Did you forget AREXX issue?  

My response was for "An no UAE and Amithlon is not an option, they are emulators, not a real computer."

Just be careful with "emulators".
Note that (near)native X86 AmigaOS applications can be develop on Amithlon (legal issues aside).

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Life goes on... I believe that the most important apps will be ported and new will be developed. (isn`t that the plan?)

Software investment protection is important i.e. just look at the success of X86(1)(2) and Windows(1)(2).

Reference:
1. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/Apr03/04-09AthlonOpteronPR.asp

2.
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/0,,3715_8420_7823_7839,00.html

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(isn`t that the plan?)

Why not tell the world “software investment protection” is not important?

What you have stated is only part of the plan.

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So?
1> as I said many apps will be ported and new will be developed.

My post (i.e. "Posted : 2003/4/10 9:29")  was referring to  mdma's post.

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Subject : Re: GPL MorphOS?
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Why buy an A1/Pegwhen I can AROS on x86?

Because it's not PPC. Why else by a peg/a1? TheOS is largely irrelevant.
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So?
1> as I said many apps will be ported and new will be developed.

Such optimistic appraisals can even fails for the big OS vendors (e.g. Microsoft’s Windows NT 4.0(up to SP3) PPC edition).  Such software porting have limits i.e. time and money.

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2> `Cause it`s AmigaOS (or AmigaOS-like if you like) and that`s my favorite OS. Simple.

Was I referring to you? It's your problem IF you like XYZ. One may need more factors than “it's my favorite OS”. Such views are purely academic.

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Or do you stay with this platform only for its apps?

Are you saying apps is not important?

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Do you think that all these OSes have less apps or worse than ours? (Well maybe BeOS :PPP)

It seems that “software investment protection” is outside your mindset.

The strength of Windows/X86 platform is its boat anchor to legacy Windows/X86 applications. AmigaOS itself has a pretty sizable boat anchor i.e. legacy AmigaOS/68K applications.

BeOS is nice but not everyone has the time to buy/download/port/invest money to replace his or her software investments. Remember AmigaOS/68K was use to be one of the dominant platform in home computing world. BeOS was never on this level.  

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2003, 03:09:48 AM »
mdma maybe you think the amiga community is a bunch of bumbling idiots that need this so called 'support' at every junctur but I dont... I dont need or want 'support' ... Genesi makes their OS... they release patches... why dont you bark up Hyperions tree for them to make AOS4 'open source'... ohh thats riiight... AOS4 isnt just closed source... it rom'ed to its respective boards so buying a super/cheaper board is impossible...

I'd hate to have to pay Genesi a yearly fee to run MorphOS... I'd prefer they keep researching and developing their product to entice me to buy into it..

GPL is pointless for MorphOS since its a commercial product... not TrashOS(GPL)...

Even the good Linux distrobutions make money off their products... or are backed by big companys that make their money entirely off of services they offer...

and since you bring up the BSD license... why dont you care to inform people what they do to make money?... they sell T-Shirts and get donations... FBSD 5.0 has been delayed... then its pathetic...

BSD is going down the tubes... because of 'free'... since it cant profiet..
 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2003, 06:04:03 AM »
oh.. free software is a GREAT idea!
you put hours and hours of your work into it, perhaps pay others to help.... and then give it all away for free! source included!!! thats a great idea...

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2003, 07:16:29 AM »
HA ha ...

'specially makes sense when you are trying to follow a business model wherein you make a living doing your development, and don't want to just do the services/consultant thing ;  }
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2003, 08:39:30 AM »
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BSD is going down the tubes... because of 'free'... since it cant profiet..


Sorry but... what a bunch of bulls*#t!
 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2003, 12:10:43 PM »
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mdma maybe you think the amiga community is a bunch of bumbling idiots that need this so called 'support' at every junctur but I dont... I dont need or want 'support'


No, but if MorphOS acheives market saturation through releasing the code, then the average joe who migt start using it will want support.

I don't need Linux support, but many people do.
 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2003, 12:13:03 PM »
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you put hours and hours of your work into it, perhaps pay others to help.... and then give it all away for free! source included!!! thats a great idea...


Every software house I have ever worked at has given the source away to the clients.  From small 5 million a year turnover limited companies to the biggest digital tv corporation in europe.  All still turning a profit.
 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2003, 12:14:23 PM »
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BSD is going down the tubes... because of 'free'... since it cant profiet..


On what evidence do you base this comment?
 

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2003, 12:47:57 PM »
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BSD is going down the tubes... because of 'free'... since it cant profiet..


So why did Apple choose this "dying" platform as the basis of MacOS X?  :-)