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Offline pooop

zip drive
« on: April 05, 2021, 05:44:00 PM »
having decided to get my amiga 1200 ppc tower up and running again i have noticed that the ide zip drive is not being recognized. i have tried iomega tools with no joy. it has been a while since using amiga so forgot everything. my system is a1200 ppc, 60gb hard drive, CDRW, ide zip drive, 128mb RAM and running OS 3.9 any ideas how to get it working?
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A1200 Z4 Tower,80GB hard drive, Blizzard PPC 160/40 BVision GFX card,32" Wharfedale tv/monitor,100MB zip drive, CD RW,128MB Ram,PS2 keyboard/optical mouse 4xEIDE interface, OS3.9 boing bag 4
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: zip drive
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 06:39:34 PM »
How are you trying to recognize the zip drive? Do you have a mountlist entry for it in Devs/dosdrivers?
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Offline TribbleSmasher

Re: zip drive
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 07:01:36 PM »
afaik the IDE version of the drive does not report disk changes, so the disk must be in the drive at startup?

Also, try Mounter instead of Iomegatools.
 

Offline pooop

Re: zip drive
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 08:40:59 PM »
no there is no zip driver in devs/dosdrivers
Bite my glorious golden ass
A1200 Z4 Tower,80GB hard drive, Blizzard PPC 160/40 BVision GFX card,32" Wharfedale tv/monitor,100MB zip drive, CD RW,128MB Ram,PS2 keyboard/optical mouse 4xEIDE interface, OS3.9 boing bag 4
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: zip drive
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 10:56:02 PM »
Well, you will need one to access the drive. ;D

After a search and poke on aminet (zip+drive), this one seems fairly friendly and multilingual. I can't guarantee the mountlists will work, but at least it goes into some detail on the subject;-

https://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/Z100
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: zip drive
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2021, 02:46:27 AM »
Apparently 3.9 has a suitable mountlist entry in the storage drawer. Drag it to devs/dosdrivers.

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=12986.0

One for PC formatted ZIP disks too, I doubt they'd work on bigger Zip drives but should be good for you.
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi
 

Offline pooop

Re: zip drive
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2021, 06:46:56 PM »
have moved the zip driver but is still not being recognized
Bite my glorious golden ass
A1200 Z4 Tower,80GB hard drive, Blizzard PPC 160/40 BVision GFX card,32" Wharfedale tv/monitor,100MB zip drive, CD RW,128MB Ram,PS2 keyboard/optical mouse 4xEIDE interface, OS3.9 boing bag 4
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: zip drive
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 08:50:07 PM »
... If you swap leads with the CD drive - is it still not recognized? Even with zip disk inserted?

It could be a dead drive, it could be that you haven't got the EIDE99 software setup quite right.

http://www.elbox.com/downloads_4xeide.html

Not sure if you need to set the drive position on tool types ("Info" from menus with icon selected). Wouldn't have thought so but have not played with one.

The things in Devs/Dosdrivers are part text file and part icon, not really drivers as such.

EDIT: The reason to try the CD on the secondary chain is to check that devices can be accessed from that socket. You will need to set the Zip drive to slave to test it on the same chain as the hard drive,

IIRC the secondary channel won't work without the EIDE99 software installed, that could be your problem.

EDITEDIT: Elbox aren't the only type of 4 way EIDE adapter.

Most relevant info I have is an arduous labour to try and get a CD-R mounted right on secondary master with 3.9.

http://www.verycomputer.com/2_487038dc93999c6a_2.htm
« Last Edit: April 07, 2021, 02:28:36 AM by Pat the Cat »
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: zip drive
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2021, 05:24:04 AM »
OK... two rough categories of 4 x ide on A1200.

Ones that plug into the onboard IDE;-

https://amigastore.eu/en/129-4xeide-99-interface.html

software link already given for that.

4 X IDE adapters for A1200 that don't plug into onboard IDE except for hard drive light (this most recent example)

https://amigastore.eu/en/44-controller-ide-elbox-fastata-a1200-mk-v-cfsata.html

Multiple type of thee, list of recent software;-

http://www.elbox.com/downloads_fastata.html
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi
 

Offline OldAmigan

Re: zip drive
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 09:34:32 AM »
There's also the older IDEFix97. There's a copy of the drivers on Aminet, it contains files for Zip drives (LS120)
« Last Edit: April 07, 2021, 10:10:41 AM by OldAmigan »
 

Offline BozzerBigD

Re: zip drive
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2021, 12:04:18 AM »
Yep, IDEFix97 works fine for me plus Zip0 (Amiga) and ZipC0 (PC) dosdriver Mountlists (names maybe wrong but similar) off an old AmigaActive Cover CD I think.

I think you can also make your own! See below:

https://lyonsden.net/how-to-use-an-iomega-zip-100-drive-with-an-amiga-1200/
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