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Offline jsixis

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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #14 from previous page: September 18, 2010, 09:22:34 PM »
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Hard-drive stored in a safe place, if you want your datas at home, or space storage somewhere on internet if you want it outside.
Anyway, double save your datas :)



 I agree, stick a hard drive in your machine and once a month copy new, then unplug it
 

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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2010, 10:28:11 PM »
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Unfortunately the capacity is rather limited, even if it was enough for the 10 commandments


And look what happened to them; they were lost, regenerated and altered many times up through the time, so we today have a whole bunch of so called 10 commandments, each cult with their own corrupted copy :)
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2010, 10:56:10 PM »
There were (are?) CDs and DVDs that use a gold layer rather than just silver that supposedly increases the life to something like 80 to 100 years and are still pretty cheap.
I personally still have SyQuest 270 hard drive cartridges with data that is about 20 years old, and is still there. They made up to 2Gb cartridges I believe. Don't confuse these with the junk that ZIP (IOmega?) drives used.
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2010, 11:37:06 PM »
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Hi, Which is the best media for long term storage... A DVD-R, a CD-R, USB Flash drive, good quality hard drive, tape?


Paper ironically. Next is stone (Suffers from problems relating being not very flexible), Paper is flexible and if kept inside a reasonably priced stone or lead box might survive 5 or 6 civilisations, another option is firing it off into space, no air to degrade the storage medium, it is anticipated that Voyager 1 and 2 might outlast the human species unless they bump into something first.

For us mere mortals the best form of long term storage is "refreshing your long term storage" every year or two. We are now hold patient data that goes back to the 70's, its gone from.....Punch - Magnetic Tape - Floppy Disk - Hard Disk - CD - DVDRAM - Back to Magnetic Tape and now to hard disk in two places or 3 if you count data centers backup too.

More than 1 copy is the key to long term storage, crack that and you laughing.

Ironically we had the answer all the time...Mr Caxton and Gutenberg...Make lots of copies and they survive centuries.
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2010, 02:23:57 AM »
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A stone.

This is a pretty robust medium and can last many thousands of years.

Unfortunately the capacity is rather limited, even if it was enough for the 10 commandments ;)


I've always found an elephant works just fine for me.  a bugger getting it back under the bed though!

Seriously, I use external hard drives, more cost effective per gigabyte than DVDs and a hell of a lot less hassle.  What is it now - about £30 for a 500GB HDD?  In saying that though I do still use QIC80 and DAT24 tapes in the retro PCs just for that retro feeling.
 

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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2010, 03:41:48 AM »
Regular paper that you buy at Woolys or K-Mart is *not* acid free, it will die in a decade or two, acid free paper will last much longer...
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2010, 04:23:43 AM »
Then..

What happen with the Pendrives?.. Why its not a safety storage way?
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 08:45:12 AM »
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Paper ironically.
What about a metal plate with the data etched on to it? If the metal is non-corrosive then it will almost last for ever :)
 

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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2010, 09:16:46 AM »
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What about a metal plate with the data etched on to it? If the metal is non-corrosive then it will almost last for ever :)


i.e like Voyager 1 and 2 then ;) Expensive tho, those plates on them cost a far few quid.
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2010, 09:26:45 AM »
if you use dvd R cd rs not that l had any problems keep them out direct sunlight
avoid using lables on the disc itself and your have no problems
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Re: Which is the best media for long term storage?
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2010, 10:24:59 AM »
Nothing. The trick is to cycle through duplicate back ups. What I have found is that the new USB storage devices are so large on a conventional machine you can keep several copies of everything and never worry about data loss. I did have old PCs that I had salvaged networked just for hard drives. The Amiga OS and software is so small I could copy most stuff in a fraction of time. I gave up with CD's and DVDs cus of access. You really cant beat a couple of either external USB drives or series of old PCs. Just make several copies of everything and have a backup routine. I have the Amiga networked to several machines and have FTP access to my online storage.

If you want your stuff to last for life then get a domain, online storage, spread it across the web and give others access to it. Interestingly I have been asked by several people to keep copies of their Amiga OS and software cus there machine had broken. I have special areas on my website for storage of information and software and have even a second domain with hosting for all my demo and PD disks.

Someone also pointed out that stone outlives everything.

CDs and DVDs are worse than floppies cus once damaged the whole thing is shot, at least with floppies I could salvage something. I really don`t trust any removable media. Its also a pain to find stuff and the drives get updated all the time as does software.

You can pick up an old PC for a couple of quid and stick in a couple of hard drives and using even a crude parnet can safely transfer your beloved Amiga software. Also get SCSI on the Amiga off a Blizzard or Squirrel and get a couple of external drives with 4GB hard drives in them. Mac style old ones. As I say the Amiga OS is so small would take an age to fill.

Backup and duplication is the key. And being able to get at the data ' all the time ' not by sifting through endless discs, disks etc etc.