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Title: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: jj on April 01, 2012, 09:13:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Dr.Bongo on April 01, 2012, 09:21:25 PM
+1 , That's exactly what I thought when I read it.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: commodorejohn on April 01, 2012, 09:54:52 PM
So, uh, when are you folks having the revolution, again?
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: XDelusion on April 01, 2012, 10:00:59 PM
Everyone knows... Everyone is accepting.

Gotta have there toys at any cost I guess.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Karlos on April 01, 2012, 10:11:03 PM
Worst. Idea. Ever.

Same tired old mantra, "we need it because advances in technology... terrorism... etc."

Rinse and repeat.

Perhaps all the ISPs should just provide their user's current activity data "realtime" to GCHQ for a day or so to illustrate what should be obvious to anybody but those cretinous morons.

What do you mean your systems are all suddenly unreachable?
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: motrucker on April 01, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
They have been trying to pull this stunt here in the U.S. too. So far it has failed, but they keep trying. I keep writing my representatives, and urging others to do the same. But not enough people seem to get this!
The U.K. really scares me. Personal liberty seems to be going down the tube. If it happens in one place, it make it easier for the extremists everywhere.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 01, 2012, 11:01:46 PM
Big Brother at its finest. I seriously think various governments around the world, are enticing revolution, so they can gain totalitarian control over their "subjects."

Quoth Admiral Adama:

"There's a reason you separate the military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state; the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 01, 2012, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: motrucker;686440
I keep writing my representatives, and urging others to do the same. .

Writing your "representatives" does nothing...... They're not in office, for you, but for personal gain. Fact of life.

Representation is a civic duty, required by *ALL* citizens and not a political ambition or career. Washington and the rest, had it right. Current "politicians" (I use the term, in loathing), well, they've lost their way.....
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Gazbonk on April 02, 2012, 12:47:14 AM
I would be very annoyed by this decision by our simple politicians and our MP's (Muppet Parliament, sorry Kermit & friends), seems that we are a free country, we seem to be getting like the far east dictatorship countries.

OR

Maybe it's a joke, it was April 1st
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Iggy on April 02, 2012, 02:13:39 AM
George Orwell would be proud of us.
We are realizing his worst nightmares.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: persia on April 02, 2012, 02:20:19 AM
That would be double plus ungood....
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: RRunner on April 02, 2012, 02:30:55 AM
The government here in Canada tried to push that through here too. There was a huge stink raised by the people and the issue was 'tabled'... probably until they think no one is looking... and they will try to sneak it through again.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 02:33:57 AM
Quote from: Gazbonk;686454

Maybe it's a joke, it was April 1st


I sincerely hope so.......
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: giZmo350 on April 02, 2012, 02:43:15 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;686470
I sincerely hope so.......

A. The BBC doesn't joke!
B. This has been coming for awhile and has been in the news for about a week here in the US.
C. WTF is happening to the UK?
D. We in the states have already been put under executive order the NDAA and Marshall Law. Look it up! Scary! http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-martial-law-bill-ndaa-now-law/
 
When I speak of what's happening the US to people I know they tell me I'm full of $h*t and that it would never happen. It already has. They're building FEMA camps at an unprecidented rate! I really don't even dare describe who is doing it in the post - but it's obvious. B.&H.C. and G.S.!
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Digiman on April 02, 2012, 03:24:56 AM
Sooner Quetzalcoatl comes and reclaims his planet in Dec 2012 the better! :madashell:
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: smerf on April 02, 2012, 03:36:15 AM
Quote from: JJ;686426
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745


Hi,

Well it is about time someone took charge of your darn Limeys.

Didn't like your posts anywhoose.

For King and country, oh no, now I know why this is happening, you only got a Queen, and she wants to be filled in on all the gossip, and all the while I thought they were going to control all you limeys, but all it is, is keeping the Queen up on the local gossip.

smerf

really LOL
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 04:12:16 AM
Quote from: gizmo350;686471
A. The BBC doesn't joke!

The BBC *IS* a joke, just like FOX "News" and CNN. Any media outlet in our lifetimes is rife with "political agenda". The First Amendment died a long time ago.....

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B. This has been coming for awhile and has been in the news for about a week here in the US.
"Awhile" means since, at least, the 1950's. Don't think, for once second, that any of this is "recent."

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C. WTF is happening to the UK?
The same thing that's happening in Egypt, Greece, America and many other parts of the World.

Except for Canada. Last I heard, Doug and Bob McKenzie were running for Prime Minister there. ;)

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D. We in the states have already been put under executive order the NDAA and Marshall Law. Look it up! Scary! http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-martial-law-bill-ndaa-now-law/
And you really think any of that matters? The American Government let its citizens know back in 2000, they don't give two sh!ts what the civilian population cares about or thinks. G Dubya bought is way into office and not a single person stood against it. There was no "public outcry", there was no demand for a "recount". The sheep just kept watching television.
 
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When I speak of what's happening the US to people I know they tell me I'm full of $h*t and that it would never happen. It already has. They're building FEMA camps at an unprecidented rate! I really don't even dare describe who is doing it in the post - but it's obvious. B.&H.C. and G.S.!
You'd be surprised how many splinter cells are out there, already prepping to fight against the American Government and their military, in the event of civil war. Trust me, when I say that Congress has already declared the civilian population as "enemies of the state." When Congress decides do abolish the Second Amendment, it's all over...... :(
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: giZmo350 on April 02, 2012, 04:36:30 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;686484

And you really think any of that matters? The American Government let its citizens know back in 2000, they don't give two sh!ts what the civilian population cares about or thinks. G Dubya bought is way into office and not a single person stood against it. There was no "public outcry", there was no demand for a "recount". The sheep just kept watching television.

Agreed...  A lot of peeps rag on G Dubya (with good reason)....  but in my opinion it was this guy that really started all the carnage: George H. W. Bush.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 02, 2012, 04:48:32 AM
Quote from: gizmo350;686487
Agreed...  A lot of peeps rag on G Dubya (with good reason)....  but in my opinion it was this guy that really started all the carnage: George H. W. Bush.

I would take it all the way back to LBJ myself.  I think the trend started back then and is just now getting into full swing.

EDIT, but if you want to rag on Bush Sr., probably should rag on the geezer who he was VP for as well.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: B00tDisk on April 02, 2012, 04:53:42 AM
It's funny.

I remember in the 1990s the lid was blown off of the fact that Echelon wasn't only pointed outward to look and listen at the Soviets, but inward to look and listen at us (by which I mean US citizens).  People had a ****ing fit over that.

Then about six years later...people started lining up to turn their personal lives over first to the governments of the world (any of them...all of them) then to Google and Facebook.

Truly, the age of privacy is over and lies in ruins.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 04:57:42 AM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;686488
I would take it all the way back to LBJ myself.  I think the trend started back then and is just now getting into full swing.

Hence, why I said the 1950's. Korea was the last effort of America to "do the right thing" when it comes to Global Conflict.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: gizmo350;686487
Agreed...  A lot of peeps rag on G Dubya (with  good reason)....  but in my opinion it was this guy that really started  all the carnage: George H. W. Bush.

One thing I should  point out. There *WAS* a 3rd party that agreed to a re-count, started by  Jesse Jackson, but was shot down by the Supreme Court. Didn't require Federal money, either. It was all paid for, by private parties. Still, the Supreme Court said no, the count stood.

Ironically, the majority of the SC, at the time, were people either placed there by good ol Herb Bush or by Regan.

Dubya  was just in there, for two reasons: 1) to finish what Daddy couldn't,  since he didn't get a second term and 2) 'cos Hussein took a shot at  Daddy, but failed.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: darkage on April 02, 2012, 06:39:28 AM
Better download PGP then :)
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Middleman on April 02, 2012, 11:02:23 AM
@Methuselas

In case you don't know already, there has been a massive fraud transfer of US$15 Trillion committed by the big banks as stated by this video here, which was held in UK Parliament several weeks ago by Lord Blackheath, who is doing an investigation into this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5hqvTWkYg

According to Blackheath the banks included Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC and a few others. Because of this investigation, many banker CEOs have been resigning and many even fleeing their homes.
>http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/p/131-resignations-from-world-banks.html

Also martial law is not going to happen because the 'Cabal' as they are known, are going to be arrested. I would suggest that some of you visit http://www.divinecosmos.com for more info on this ongoing battle as well as http://www.the2012scenario.com which has the following article >
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/04/gregg-prescott-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and-political-elite/
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: TheDaddy on April 02, 2012, 11:45:24 AM
This is outrageous!

Not much different from the countries we (the west) keep attacking as violators of human rights.

Muppets!
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: motrucker on April 02, 2012, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: Middleman;686516
@Methuselas

In case you don't know already, there has been a massive fraud transfer of US$15 Trillion committed by the big banks as stated by this video here, which was held in UK Parliament several weeks ago by Lord Blackheath, who is doing an investigation into this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5hqvTWkYg

According to Blackheath the banks included Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC and a few others. Because of this investigation, many banker CEOs have been resigning and many even fleeing their homes.
>http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/p/131-resignations-from-world-banks.html

Also martial law is not going to happen because the 'Cabal' as they are known, are going to be arrested. I would suggest that some of you visit www.divinecosmos.com (http://www.divinecosmos.com) for more info on this ongoing battle as well as www.the2012scenario.com (http://www.the2012scenario.com) which has the following article >
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/04/gregg-prescott-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and-political-elite/

So,    I gather you are supporting these new laws. There are already laws on the books (in ALL countries!) that cover these situations.
We do not need more laws!
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: giZmo350 on April 02, 2012, 06:16:39 PM
Even more crazyiness!
 
Arizona Passes Sweeping Internet Censorship Bill

 
http://www.infowars.com/arizona-passes-sweeping-internet-censorship-bill/
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: amiman99 on April 02, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;686571
Even more crazyiness!
 
Arizona Passes Sweeping Internet Censorship Bill

 
http://www.infowars.com/arizona-passes-sweeping-internet-censorship-bill/
No South Park and Family Guy in Arizona then?
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Fats on April 02, 2012, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Karlos;686433
Worst. Idea. Ever.

Same tired old mantra, "we need it because advances in technology... terrorism... etc."


And if people still doubt they will slap the child porn argument somewhere so everybody has to agree...

Time for open source VOIP with safe encrpytion.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: Fats;686597
And if people still doubt they will slap the child porn argument somewhere so everybody has to agree...

Time for open source VOIP with safe encrpytion.

greets,
Staf.



I couldn't agree more. ;)
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 02, 2012, 10:00:51 PM
Quote from: Middleman;686516
@Methuselas

In case you don't know already, there has been a massive fraud transfer of US$15 Trillion committed by the big banks as stated by this video here, which was held in UK Parliament several weeks ago by Lord Blackheath, who is doing an investigation into this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5hqvTWkYg

According to Blackheath the banks included Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC and a few others. Because of this investigation, many banker CEOs have been resigning and many even fleeing their homes.
>http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/p/131-resignations-from-world-banks.html

Also martial law is not going to happen because the 'Cabal' as they are known, are going to be arrested. I would suggest that some of you visit www.divinecosmos.com (http://www.divinecosmos.com) for more info on this ongoing battle as well as www.the2012scenario.com (http://www.the2012scenario.com) which has the following article >
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/04/gregg-prescott-imminent-mass-arrests-of-globalists-bankers-and-political-elite/

Yeah, and the American Government bailed out the automotive industry and the banking industry at a cost of almost a trillion dollars of US taxpayer's money, *WITHOUT* the consent of the people. What's your point? Yes, the majority of the banks have started paying back their "loans", but how do you think they did it?

By increasing loan percentages, mortgage interests and simple banking costs. You *PAY* to give these "businesses" your money, to spend at *THEIR* leisure.

Lemme explain to you how the "banking system" works. You get paid by your job, you take your paycheck to the bank. The bank then puts you on a "credit system", using your money, to make more, for themselves. When their investments fail, you're *STILL* on a credit system and they lose money. Do you really think the money they lose comes out of their own pockets? No, they increase charges, percentages and interests to make up for it.

In addition the CIA and the FBI are now told to flag people who transact solely in cash as "potential terrorists", 'cos only a "terrorist" uses cash....

Fact of the matter is, *EVERY* Government in the world does what's in *THEIR* best interests, not the interests of the people. US representatives don't pay for their own campaigns. Businesses and wealthy investors give them money, in return for "favors" from the politicians. Favors that consist of things like, turning the other cheek when a business conducts unethical, business practices. *THAT* is how *EVERY* Government works.

Face the facts, politicians are the *WORST* kind of criminal. They're rarely held accountable and even more rare, prosecuted...... :madashell:
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: runequester on April 03, 2012, 01:21:04 AM
If government truly represented the interests of it's citizens, how could there ever be discontent against said government?
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: commodorejohn on April 03, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: runequester;686704
If government truly represented the interests of it's citizens, how could there ever be discontent against said government?
Because no citizenry is homogenous?

But that's kind of beside the point when they aren't even interested in trying.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Fats on April 03, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: runequester;686704
If government truly represented the interests of it's citizens, how could there ever be discontent against said government?


It's in people's nature to be discontent. Grass is always greener on the other side of the river (Don't know if that is a saying in English). No government is going to solve that.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: Methuselas on April 03, 2012, 08:06:29 PM
Quote from: Fats;686832
It's in people's nature to be discontent. Grass is always greener on the other side of the river (Don't know if that is a saying in English). No government is going to solve that.

greets,
Staf.


We usually leave off "of the river". ;)
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: runequester on April 03, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;686706
Because no citizenry is homogenous?

But that's kind of beside the point when they aren't even interested in trying.


Wasn't it recently, during the debt ceiling "debate" that approval rates for congress reached 10% ?

You can probably find more than 10% of the population who'd support remodelling society after the Star Wars movies.
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: DLH on April 04, 2012, 02:05:49 AM
Vader for President
Title: Re: This would be bad, real bad
Post by: runequester on April 04, 2012, 06:12:22 AM
Quote from: DLH;686892
Vader for President


"voting is optional. Being force-choked by Vader for your lack of faith is not"