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Offline clusterukTopic starter

Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« on: August 11, 2017, 02:13:02 PM »
Hi All

I have just posted this video because I truly believe that new Amiga fans that are coming along need a cheap way to dip there toes and whilst we all know about the Raspberry Pi usually this is for games. This video is to show it can do so much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HZXM6cLVUg

Oh, and yes it is faster than my 68060/60mhz A2000 as well and seems faster than Vampire too except FPU.

Don't lynch me :-)

Steve
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Offline kolla

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 02:22:54 PM »
Quote from: clusteruk;829440
faster than Vampire too except FPU.

With the Vampire not having FPU - what on earth do you mean?

EDIT: Oh.. FLOPS.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 02:29:40 PM by kolla »
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 02:36:11 PM »
Nice looking classics you have clusteruk. :) I just skimmed through your video, will watch properly over the weekend.

I must admit, I haven't tried a Vampire, and the new femu does provide support for FPU reliant software.

C'mon Kolla, don't play dumb. You know that already.

A Pi just isn't like using an Amiga, and if people want a fast classic, Vampire is the way to go. Little details like hardware mouse pointer for instance. Some people insist on real scanlines and CRT monitors.

On the other hand, if people just want a cheap solution that gives a fast Amiga, Pi's are very strong on price vs performance.

And if you already have a fast PC by current standards, WinUAE is very nice.

If people want a new PPC based compatibility and AmigaDOS 4, Aeon / Hyperion will be happy to deliver them a system (eventually... ahem).

So there isn't a "best" or "winner". It depends what the end user wants, in terms of experience, as well as capability.
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Offline kolla

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 06:08:10 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;829446

C'mon Kolla, don't play dumb. You know that already.


Only after watching the video.

People (myself included) seem to mix things, making it hard to know what people are talking about.

FPU - floating point unit, either as dedicated processor or as part of CPU.

SoftFPU - a product for old macs, emulating FPU - hence also sometimes used as a generic term for FPU emulator, for example in the Linux kernel.

Softfloat - handling floating point in software without involving FPU, real or emulated.

I notice that I have myself got the two latter mixed up on a few occasion, not sure why, but why not blame it on beer :)
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Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 07:26:38 PM »
clusteruk, are you running one of the dedicated pi amiga distros or just running one on top of rasbian?  (I can't view vids at ork)
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 07:28:36 PM »
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clusteruk, are you running one of the dedicated pi amiga distros or just running one on top of rasbian?  (I can't view vids at ork)


He's using Amibian.

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Offline kamelito

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 07:59:02 PM »
More than 130k Dhrystones? I've barely 30k on my I5 laptop under FS-UAE  Kamelito
 

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Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2017, 12:26:03 AM »
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Don't lynch me :-)

Steve

I like your video. Right when you were running PPaint, I was thinking wish he would run TVpaint :) I had no idea that the RPi 3 could emulate a high-end amiga so well.

I've got a fun C=64c RPi3 build (with C= 16 KB) which I run RetroPie on...

I've built a "motherboard" that brings all the ports from the RPi to the C=64 case without modifying the C=64 case (which I've actually got two)  - Just the SD card not outside extensible.  

Would this be possible to run under RetroPie vs Amibian?

Thanks
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 04:20:17 AM »
I've actually got a Pie myself running RetroPie, it's a great/cheap/easy way to play classic games using WHDLOAD and TinyLauncher  (including AGA games).   I use it to play 2 player games with my daughter :)
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Offline David Wright

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 05:06:30 AM »
Good video. For the price I can't see why everyone doesn't play with it, no matter what you own.
How did you get composite out to your 1084?  As far as sound, speakers are usually necessary unless it is outputted to tv or some hdmi monitors with speakers.
 

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Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 11:53:55 AM »
I use a RaspberryPi 3 in an A1200 case with a Keyrah for my Amiga needs now... almost exclusively. It's a very effective low cost approach and means I don't have to worry floppy disks or CRT displays.

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 02:35:24 PM »
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How did you get composite out to your 1084? As far as sound, speakers are usually necessary unless it is outputted to tv or some hdmi monitors with speakers.

I could be wrong on how clusteruk does it, but the audio port on a Pi3B also includes a composite video output.

4 pins (video, stereo and ground) rather than 3 pins (stereo and ground).

http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/

Right clusteruk? Finishing up watching now, it's a very informative video showing great taste in aesthetic design as well as practical engineering.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 02:51:15 PM by Pat the Cat »
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Re: Amiga emulation on Raspberry Pi out performs all my Amiga's
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 04:05:34 PM »
HE wrote composite output cable for PI.
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