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Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« on: March 16, 2017, 04:34:27 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;823446
Which reinforces my opinion that this is being run like a kid's clubhouse.


the guy is doing things, with an amazing motivation and endurance. he and gunnar have probably delivered more that anyone else within last years, and there is more to come. all you have ever done was talking big. considering this, your opinion doesnt count a dime.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 06:42:37 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;823451
Right...I was in business when many of you were children.


sorry, i have never knowingly came across anything you have done, but im constantly getting to read your posts, where you refer to yourself in a rather grandeur manner, as if it was everybodys matter of interest, what you are going to do and what you are going to buy or not, while you dont miss an opportunity to badmouth vampire people.

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If you want to continue to act like children, that is your decision.

But the business model is asinine.


if i have a choice to act like you or act like a child, ill take the latter. everybody who might be interested knows your opinion by now, no need to repeat yourself.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 11:39:12 PM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;823467
The trouble is that the 'special' kind of people who create innovative hardware/software are not the best kind of people to market and produce it (we've seen this so often in the retro scene).

The Amiga A1200 replacement case shows how it can be done right:

1) launch a successful campaign to raise the capital
2) Get your product mass produced on the cheap
3) Keep your backers updated about the delays that always occur in AmigaLand
4) Pay for an actual shipping company to ship the bloody thing ;)

It's not too late for the Vampire to have a great Kickstarter campaign with the A1200 model...stretch targets could be a model for CD32 and A3000  :)


äh, the a1200 replacement case is ages behind a schedule  and has been becoming enough flack themselves. same for fpgaarcade. natami has not been delivered to the public atall! not that i say the flack is justified.

apollo people, same as everybody else, are free to choose how they want to proceed with their project. they could bean it, as long they didnt take any money from you up front, and they would have been well within their own rights.

they dont owe community nothing. same as you are not oblidged to deliver game ports to the community (for free) and may quit any time. i really dont understand these constant blames and demands towards people, who like you, actually do or did something.

edit: btw i can well understand why they dont want to make kickstart out of it. let alone they need to do that. they want to keep their project flexible and dynamic, rather than fulfilling obligations. they want to motivate others to join and contribute, create a current, rather than to make the public passively waiting for a product. they want people to come up with ideas. and this unfolds. read igors post on his page.
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Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2017, 01:17:17 AM »
@nova

so you didnt sell all your amiga stuff;)

anyway, in this case vampire is second best, without kickstarter. there must be already few hundred people served, which is not bad in comparison to other products. im not one of them nor intend to be, except mybe if i sell my csppc to get vampire 1200, but im still rather convinced and supportive.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2017, 05:34:22 PM »
now the early hand soldered cards will become seeked after valuable collectibles.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 09:10:30 PM »
Quote from: TheMagicM;823529
I was going to buy another gun, but instead...I'll get one of these.


thats the spirit! the bosnian contribution to world peace! in that case i admit, amiga makes that possible!
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Vampire going into high end production
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »
Quote from: HammerD;823533
two days to complete


wouldnt assume a batch rolling off every day.