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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2012, 04:52:49 PM »
Notoriously? Did you start with a friendly email? That tends to work rather well.
 

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 05:11:02 PM »
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That's pretty much the way Amiga hardware goes, take it to your grave.  Damn annoying users!

At least we got the Haynie files.  That's an awesome resource.

Fingers crossed.

P.S. - Where is the petition?
I wish someone (with the ability to do so) would do the same about the CSA 12-Guage accelerator.  This is a great accelerator for the A1200, and has a very nice SCSI system on-board, but the latest ROM for it does not support the memory controller under 3.1.  I tried upgrading my ROM from 3.0 to 3.1, but found that  If I install any RAM using the on-board SIMM slot, the computer will not post!  Anyone wants to take a look & see if they can fix this bug?!
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2012, 06:02:51 PM »
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CSA 12-Guage accelerator


What's that ???

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 10:44:03 PM »
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What's that ???
It was one of the first generation 030/50Mhz accelerators for the A1200.  It worked beautifully, and has built-in a SCSI-II interface.  Problem is, I believe the company stopped support/closed its doors before 3.1 was released.  Apparently, the memory control system has changed between 3.0 & 3.1, so the ROM on the unit does not work with RAM installed, if you have the 3.1 ROMs installed.  I really don't want to purchase a whole new accelerator, just because this one will not work with 3.1!!
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2012, 12:06:14 AM »
I dont own any apollo card but its a good idea, its good for us to take control over any kind of hardware, like the indivision aga mk1, not a old piece of hardware but seems abandoned and more with the mk2 near the market.

Just my opinion.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2012, 12:17:35 AM »
Why on earth is Jens going to give away not only something he paid good money for, but something that would then allow his customers to produce similar (although less advanced) products to the ones he is spending time and money to develop for possibly less than his sell for? This is just a pointless excercise. Start making serious cash offers and then he will maybe start to consider it, but as it stands I'm sure Jens will be less than impressed with this petition.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2012, 01:44:01 AM »
I don't think you guys realize how complicated a product like that is.
Its not something you're going to easily be able to duplicate even with all the technical information.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2012, 03:55:40 AM »
Havent you guys considered that Jens purchased the rights to BURY them?  this is very common in the tech world..

Also about English yes its the New World Order language. The illumnati are trying to go back to Tower of Babel days!

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2012, 09:43:51 AM »
@Xanxi

Did you know that more people spoke English than Francais in the 20th and 21st centuries?   I guess most native la langue Francaise people have studied a lot of English at school, unless everyone  has gone to the Chinese lesson instead by now.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2012, 01:04:32 PM »
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@Xanxi

Did you know that more people spoke English than Francais in the 20th and 21st centuries?   I guess most native la langue Francaise people have studied a lot of English at school, unless everyone  has gone to the Chinese lesson instead by now.

Yes, Chinese probably IS the wave of the future.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2012, 01:24:52 PM »
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Yes, Chinese probably IS the wave of the future.

China has more english speakers than USA ;-)
 

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2012, 02:41:58 PM »
Although India is bound to top China's population - so better start learning Hindi if you want to be up to date tomorrow! ;)
 

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2012, 02:53:19 PM »
Sorry to bring the thread back on topic... ;)

What would be considered "enough"?

Is it the binaries, the source or replacement parts?

He might feel that source and schematics could raise up a competitor.

Binary files or selling pre-programmed parts might be a better angle if you just want your existing cards up and running.

You might also consider a bounty proposal to reimburse him on his investment.

I don't feel confident that an unfocused "give us everything for free" approach is going to get very far.
 

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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 21, 2012, 04:04:41 PM »
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Sorry to bring the thread back on topic... ;)

What would be considered "enough"?

Is it the binaries, the source or replacement parts?

He might feel that source and schematics could raise up a competitor.

Binary files or selling pre-programmed parts might be a better angle if you just want your existing cards up and running.

You might also consider a bounty proposal to reimburse him on his investment.

I don't feel confident that an unfocused "give us everything for free" approach is going to get very far.


Let me ask you something: do you recall an old, old ooooooooold thread on aw.net posted by someone who asked Thomas Dellert(sp) if he'd sell the plans for the DCE PPC cards?  Yeah, he said $250,000.  That was probably motivated by nothing but spite.  Jens has a vested interest in burying the Apollo cards above and beyond being a snarky dick about it.  So...I'd say it ain't never gonna happen.
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