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Offline chris

NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« on: July 20, 2019, 01:50:52 PM »
NetSurf 3.9 features support for CSS Media Queries (level 4) and improvements to JavaScript handling. Also included are many bug fixes and improvements. We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.9.

Download for AmigaOS 4
Download BETA for AmigaOS 3.5+ (check version before downloading as it has only just been uploaded)
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 10:55:23 PM »
thanks! Anything special with 68k version? Has it got lost speed back?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline chris

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2019, 08:32:22 PM »
I haven't made any OS3 specific changes since the previous discussion. Also I haven't fixed whatever was broken because nobody actually told me what needed fixing (the discussion fizzled out before coming to any concrete identification of the cause of the crashes)
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
Avatar picture is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2019, 10:36:33 PM »
OK, need check what I can do. Log didn't help?

It is just slow, bog slow with both of my machines. Reverted back KS3.1 other machine, see if problem was KS3.1.4. It din't help. I made a lots of logs to previous thread and situation is about a same.

With

A1200, Blizzard 68060, KS3.1.4 and Mutools installed running, it starts and displays welcome page without images and freezes.
A1200, Apollo 68060, KS3.9, it starts OK, displays images etc. going to amiga.org OK, freezes when I try to go forums.I thing this is some how time related?

Both amiga has same versions of (wich has always worked) guigfx and render libraries.

I

ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 11:45:18 PM »
Thanks for keeping this maintained, Chris!
 

Offline QBit

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 05:10:32 AM »
Works for me on an 68030 Amiga 1200.. but is slow as hell to a point it's unusable!
 

Offline Dynamic_Computing

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 06:39:39 AM »
I really want to love this software, but just never really works for me. I have been playing with it on my A4000 for about a year now. Currently a 68060 / 80 MHz, 96+ MB of RAM and RTG graphics. Occasionally it might load a website, bit then usually just gets stuck and won't do anything... And I go back to iBrowse.
I will try the new version and see if it works better for me. I would love to report the bugs, but the bug for me is that it just does not work. 😢

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 04:08:09 PM »
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Occasionally it might load a website, bit then usually just gets stuck and won't do anything.

I have same symptoms.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline redfox

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 09:05:46 PM »
Saddly, this new version of NetSurf is very slow on AMIGA.org ... I get alot of busy pointer activity as the browser is trying to render.  Also have to shut off anti-aliasing when I am attempting to post.  Otherwise, characters disappear as I am typing along the line.

I will most likely go back to NetSurf 3.8 ...

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redfox
 

Offline redfox

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2019, 09:41:26 PM »
As I mentioned in my previous post, this version of NetSurf is very slow for me on AMIGA.org.
I get alot of busy pointer activity as the browser is trying to render the main list of posts as well as individual threads.

Just for comparison, I tried my other Amiga web browsers ...
AMIGA.org is very slow on Origyn Web Browser 3.31 (Pukapuka), AWEB APL 3.5.12 and IBrowse 2.4.

Better on NetSurf 3.8
Better on TimberWolf 4.0.1 (RC3).
Best on Odyssey Web Browser 1.23

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redfox
 

Offline chris

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2019, 12:45:31 AM »
As I mentioned in my previous post, this version of NetSurf is very slow for me on AMIGA.org.
I get alot of busy pointer activity as the browser is trying to render the main list of posts as well as individual threads.

Just for comparison, I tried my other Amiga web browsers ...
AMIGA.org is very slow on Origyn Web Browser 3.31 (Pukapuka), AWEB APL 3.5.12 and IBrowse 2.4.

Better on NetSurf 3.8
Better on TimberWolf 4.0.1 (RC3).
Best on Odyssey Web Browser 1.23

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redfox

Are you running it on OS4?  Maybe try switching JavaScript off?
If it's not that I'm curious to know the cause.

There is mention of it being slower on OS3 but I figured that was because it is buggy on OS3 anyway.
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
Avatar picture is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
 

Offline redfox

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2019, 04:15:35 AM »
Update ...

It is actually the "progress pointer" (arrow with stopwatch) that I am seeing most of the time on AMIGA.org ...

This progress pointer shows up at the same points during download of info as a progress bar shows up when I am using another web browser.  The total time to download this particular forum thread is about the same as when I use much older web browsers.

Running NetSurf 3.9 on the public version of AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1

System= MicroA1-C with IBM PowerPC 750 GX CPU and 256MB RAM

Progress pointer shows up in all forums on amiga.org, while info is downloading to the display.

My actual "busy pointer" (cloud with ZZ in it) also shows up while scrolling through a thread on the amiga.org forums.

The main www.amiga.org site where you select Forums, Developer, Wiki, Facebook, Store renders ok.

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redfox

 
« Last Edit: July 24, 2019, 04:37:09 AM by redfox »
 

Offline redfox

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2019, 05:50:03 AM »
Update ...

The following issues appear to be related to something on the AMIGA.org forum site:
- excessive appearances of "progress pointer" while info is coming down to my browser window.
- excessive appearances of "busy pointer" while scrolling up or down using mouse scroll wheel.
- slow jerky movement of the "hand pointer" as I move my mouse across the browser window.

I don't see any of these problems on Amigaworld.net forum site.

I didn't have time to check Amigans.net forum site.

Please note, I also see the progress bar alot using Origyn Web Browser on AMIGA.org forum site.

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redfox
 

Offline chris

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2019, 11:35:14 PM »
@redfox
Can you go into prefs and check that cache native bitmaps is set to "scaled". I think the option is in the rendering tab.
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
Avatar picture is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
 

Offline redfox

Re: NetSurf 3.9 web browser released
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2019, 04:14:00 AM »
Thanks Chris.

It was set for "none".  Now set to "scaled".  No longer experiencing excessive appearances of the "progress pointer".
Still get a few appearances of "busy pointer" as I scroll up and down the web browser window.

Very satisfied now with accessing Amiga.org forums.

Thanks,
redfox