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Any Scala Guru's on here?
« on: July 17, 2014, 03:17:18 PM »
I have created some slides in Dpaint and have started to make a small slideshow/presentation with music in Scala MM400. I want to be able to then give the presentation to someone who has an Amiga but does not have Scala installed in any way. How do I achieve saving my show so as I can just say to them,  here you go, watch this?

The final slideshow will be too big for a floppy disk so I will have to get them to place it on their hard drive to watch.

I have no Scala manual so I am looking for someone who has actually done this - I'm not having much luck guessing my way through...

Any advice most welcome, Thanks.

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 03:20:42 PM »
It sounds like you need Hollywood.
That way you can compile your slideshow to an exe file.
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 04:01:49 PM »
Never used Hollywood but I could give it a go if I knew where to get it, isn't it a lot more complex than Scala though? I thought Hollywood was more of a programming language.

I would prefer to stick with Scala at this stage as the slide show is almost complete but only if Scala is capable of doing what I want it to do.

I felt sure that Scala had the ability to do this...? Presentations must be transferable to other Amiga's by using the Player surely?

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 04:05:53 PM »
Not sure where you obtained Scala MM 400 but, my purchased CD (from AmigaKit) has a full manual in "guide" form and the CD also contains ScalaMMPlayer & NightShift. This also from EAB....

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=69684

Well... If you are using WinUAE you could record a video file with the  output of the WinUAE screen. WinUAE is able to do this with the Output  panel. I have seen some users of this forum saying that have done this  already and that works.

More interesting would be if WinUAE could be used like a frame server or could be plugged to one, like is AVISynth used for (http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page). This way, anyone could make a color-key of the WinUAE video output over a video playing in background.

Then WinUAE could be used for things like movie subtitling, or together with small programs like VirtualDub (http://www.virtualdub.org/) and Avanti/ffmpeg (http://avanti.arrozcru.com/, and http://www.ffmpeg.org/)  to make home videos for YouTube, for example. Or even with big programs  like Adobe Premiere for feeding it with titles or hand-drawn ANIM  animations.
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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 04:59:44 PM »
Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...

My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 05:05:39 PM »
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Interesting points re Winuae and I am using Winuae these days...

My Scala is the floppy version.
Would be great to get the manuals from the CD somehow - guess I could buy it :-(

Yea, I guess that was my point....  sorry, might not be legal to share the manual as it's still being sold. Good thing is that AmigaKit still has it in stock and then you would have all the available tools that come with the product. :) The WinUAE thing is interesting though!

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 05:26:34 PM »
I'd think seriously about buying it if I could establish that it could do exactly what I wanted it to do - it's good that it is still available.

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 06:29:29 PM »
Scala delivers scala player, a small executable to run scala scripts on target system. It may need to be set as default tool in tooltypes of the project icon. A slideshow should be perfectly doable on a floppy. Scala projects are very small. Btw you can edit and clean up the scripts in a text editor. Hollywood is good but it costs additinal money, the result takes more ram and its an overkill here
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 09:27:50 PM »
But buying Hollywood you help to support a product which is still being developed.

With the Malibu plugin you can even import Scala scripts and compile them

http://forums.hollywood-mal.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=400&p=1818&hilit=scala#p1818
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 10:10:42 PM »
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But buying Hollywood you help to support a product which is still being developed.

With the Malibu plugin you can even import Scala scripts and compile them

http://forums.hollywood-mal.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=400&p=1818&hilit=scala#p1818

The original poster asks if its possible to make slideshow with scala that fits on a floppy and plays on an amiga out of the box. It is.
Now you come and tell him to buy hollywood to support current development rather than trying to help him and answer his question. Hollywod will not work on an unexpanded amiga without gfx card. Scala will. Please dont convince him he needs an ng system next..
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 11:15:07 PM »
So?

Supporting Hollywood is still a good idea. Beside I just gave him an alternative to having a player included on floppy discs, since Hollywood can compile for almost any system out there, I still think it is a good alternative.
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2014, 02:20:56 AM »
There is a free distributable runtime Scala MM300 player on Aminet. Search for scalademo. It is already configured for playback. You just need to drop your script and media files there, and just configure the player´s tooltypes.

It is free and easy :)
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2014, 05:14:35 PM »
I think that more than hollywood He needs Designer. Its a different product.
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 05:34:25 PM »
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I think that more than hollywood He needs Designer. Its a different product.

Yes he would need both. And Hollywood is not supporting AGA  so depending on what his friend is using Hollywood+Designer would not help. He could of course compile it for Windows or Linux instead but I assume that was not the goal :)

Short explanation... Designer is creating a Hollywood script so you need Hollywood installed
 

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Re: Any Scala Guru's on here?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 07:01:27 PM »
Well, all these new applications are interesting to hear about and I will explore them all in due course but for the time being I have found a solution...

Simple really I suppose but it takes time for me to work things out - I ain't the brightest spark on computers...

I put the Scala Player in the same drawer as my slide show, I also put the System drawer from my Scala hard drive installation in the same drawer, I change the tool type of my slide show script to point to the scala player in the drawer (changed from pointing to where I installed scala on my HD) Then... and this is where I previously made a schoolboy error, I transferred the drawer to my friends laptop making sure that the path is exactly the same as it was on my HD where I created the slideshow... in the system partition in a drawer called "Slideshows" So it mirrors where it was created and resides on my HD (hope this all makes sense but essentially it means the script can find the slide show pages and samples etc...)

Anyway, bang - it works and he does not have Scala installed at all on his hard drive so I think I have got there...

Mind you, the slide show sound samples slow right down on his laptop but I think this is a fault of his crappy machine as the show runs well on my laptop (all this via Winuae)

I am sure that making smaller slideshows and getting them onto a floppy would be better but that brings other challenges. For now I'm happy. This slide show was 11MB in total so I will have to experiment with compressed images and smaller samples next time...

If anyone is interested in the slideshow I will upload it to dropbox at some stage.

Thank you everyone for your help and comments.
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