BOUNTY for AmiDARK Engine source code release.

[Calimeiro]

Since AmigaDark engine is developed since 2009 (September is the first blog entry, It has maybe been developed earlier...)
Based on that data, the cost per day is 1.09 Euros. Too expensive you're right.

Kamelito

The inventors of the fantastic steam powered toothbrush started their project in 1912. Price is 40580.- €. That is just 1,09 per day.
What a bargain. Think of all the electric power you save. :hammer:

Face reality. Gaming is more then watching still images.
Today it's 3d accellerated graphics, postion based audio, multiplayer and/or makes use of steering wheels, force-feedback controllers and the whole shebang.
Now, there are classic and ng amigas. What type of hardware do those machines support to make gaming a thrilling experience or fun?

Furthermore: it's my opinion about the price. Posting was about the lack of capable coders. Talented coders don't tend to drop from the sky.
Experienced coders might be able to set up their own collection of macros and wrapper functions.
And last point is, it doesn't make coding as easy as pie just because you save some lines of source code. You need lots of experience to master any high level language for any kind of project that is as time consuming as game developement.

Me thinks, your little math was just to fire up the heat for the next flame war, that would distract everyones attention. There is no gaming platform that demands such a "game engine". There is no project in the pipe using such a game engine. That would be a good reason to keep this alive, a game that is worth naming it a game and that is build upon AmiDark and highly anticipated.
Name one, and i am convinced.

[amigadave]

Don't be kidding. Those who are lacking the coding skills won't become a game designer or just a software engineer no matter if they chose Basic, Amos, Logo or any other simplified and easy to learn language.[.quote]
Utter total BS. Nobody is born with coding skills. There was a time when I was lacking in coding skills too, but I've become very good at it.

I started using BASIC on the C64, but quickly wanted something better (performance sucked). Back then, I could write simple programs and would have liked to create games. However, I lacked the ability to do the bare essentials like load and display images, move sprites, play sound effects and music, etc. A "low end game engine," As you put it, would have been exactly what I needed to get started. It would have helped me a lot.

I remember a friend had AMOS, and with a few lines of code we could create stuff way more impressive than anything that I'd ever done before. That was awesome! It lowered the barrier to entry for creating games/demos. No, we never released anything, but it certainly helped me to learn how to write software. It was also fun.

What something like AmiDARK, Hollywood and AMOS provides is an easy way to get impressive results quickly. That helps get people started, and also helps boost the motivation needed to keep on working, learning, and improving. No, not everyone will go on to become a game designer, but it will provide those who are genuinely interested with a good starting point. Plus, creating stuff is fun, even if the end result isn't always release grade.


Of course the first attempts that anyone makes at a new task are going to "suck." However, with practise people get better. The goal for a rookie is to learn and enjoy the process of getting better. You have no idea how many of the people who made "dreaded attempts with low end game engines" now work in the gaming industry.

Of course, if you tell people how much you hate their "dreaded attempts," then they're much less likely to try again and make something better. Way to go, Grinch!


The bounty is to open-source it. It closely mirrors the DarkGDK API. You would have known this if you had bothered to look into it before spouting your opinion.

Hans

+1

[fishy_fiz]

@Calimeiro

Haha, your post is so ridiculous as to be hilarious.

Going by your "logic" no language/engine is ever worthwhile, because when theyre first created there's no good projects that exist, and people need to learn to use them.
Do you not see the chicken/egg scenario?
Even when you've had details pointed out to you you've chosen to ignore them so you can continue your nonsense rant. Did you miss the gdk reference? You asked for an example, but ignored that detail. You also question cross platform development, even though the answers to that are within the bounty.

Near as I can tell you've simply decided upon an opinion based on absolutely nothing other than the misinformation you've concocted in your head and run with it.

[yssing]

Everybody, please help reach the goals of this bounty.

http://www.power2people.org/projects/amidark/

[kamelito]

@calmeiro
Sure 3D...not really in the mobile market. Even Apple saw that 60% of most apps are games and many 2D games that's why they developed Sprite Kit to make it easy to develop 2D games but I'm sure they're wrong...
As for Calimeiro the cartoon I remember it because it was always complaining ie the character, good choice for your nick.
kamelito

[Yasu]

I have donated a lot of money over the years to p2p through their general fund. I'm prepared to ask them to divert a good amount of that money to this bounty if the goal looks reachable.

So open up your pockets please. If everyone donates a little over the next week I'm pretty sure I can put the decisive weight of the scale

[Yasu]

Making a one time only bump here. If we get a little more money in there I should be able to make it pass the 1500€ line. When we reach 1200€ I think.

[Thorham]

Face reality. Gaming is more then watching still images.

Yeah, it's about the game play.

[Niding]

Increased my donation ^^

[Niding]

AmiDark Engine
Donations: €1205
Raised 80% of €1500 goal.

Going reasonably fast now ^^

Been some updates to the bounty page;

http://www.power2people.org/projects/amidark/

[Niding]

I see Amidark have updated the page a bit more.


Donations: €1440
Raised 96% of €1500 goal.

[tolkien]

I think that the words from the great Hans have helped to this bounty. Thanks. I think It is a necessary tool.

[Yasu]

I kept my promise and transferred 230€ from the general fund. 250€ in total The rest is up to you guys

[Niding]

Indeed.

If everyone updates their donation with just a few euros it will easily pass the minimum.
Still, I feel very confident the bounty will be met before the end date.

Some detailed info about development status of the engine;

http://www.amidark-engine.com/spip.php?article38

[Niding]

In other news, still at 45 Euro to go ^^

[wrath of khan]

I just donated 25.00 euros.
if it was possible to port it to classic systems that would be cool.