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How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« on: May 26, 2014, 11:44:49 PM »
Hello,

I have been trying to get shapeshifter to install an OS for hours now and I have no idea what to do. I could really use some help! I have some 7.5 and 7.6 files (mostly .dsk and anpackaged files). I understand that I need a boot disk or something but I have no idea where to get one. Years ago I ran OS 8.1 on my 060 and I don@t remember there being any problems. Now I am just completely dumbfounded.

I am setting my system up in WinUAE, having connected my real amiga HDD. My amiga is an A1200 with an ACA1232/40mzh (noMMU). I am planning on getting an indivision.

All the guides I have read point to files that are no longer around (MACOS761.lha) or seem to assume knowledge that I sadly do not have. I would be extremely thankful if someone could help guide me through the setup process so that I can enjoy some mac emulation on my amiga again.
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 11:52:16 PM »
Thank you for the fast reply XDelusion, but I have already read the post and it doesn@t really help me at the point where i am now. I have set up the rom and prepareemul, I have done the Graphics setting in shapeshifter and i am ready to install macos onto a partition on my hdd that is to be a dedicated macos partition, but i have no idea how to install the OS.

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Is it possible to use the hardfile from that post to copy the OS onto the partition?
(Please excuse me if I am being rudely ignorant here, but most of the Amiga knowhow that I had a few years ago is completely gone..)
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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 12:08:39 AM »
I have started from Cammys diskfile now and has my partition set up as a device. When to OS boots it asks if i want to format my partition and i say yes. It is a very slow process.. :P I would love to somehow copy the os from the diskfile onto the partition, as i have read that using an actual partition is faster then a diskfile, and my amiga isnt extremely fast. :)

And I must say that this diskfile is cool. Very nice work by cammy! One day I too will become a productive member of the amiga community. Mark my words! ;)
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 08:53:12 AM »
I do not have a cf pcmcia card so I won't be able to do that now, but I'll keep it in mind for future purchases.

What i really want to do is install/copy the OS to my partition.
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 09:14:35 AM »
A strange thing is happening all of a sudden: The mouse pointer is going crazy while on the mac side. I've tried restarting. It happened while formatting the partition and has been going since. Any ideas?
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 09:03:49 PM »
I guess i can keep using Cammys hardfile until i fully get my head around how this emulator works again. :)

Now I just have to get agaboost to work and install some games ;)
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 11:38:58 PM »
Ok, sorry for asking one more, possiblyy silly question:
How do i move files to the mac?

When using cammys diskfile i initializen my DH3: on the mac side, moved all the files over and rebooted without the diskfile. It worked! Now i boot from my partition, but i am unable to move files to the macside. I have moved mac-handler to the correct place, started shapeshifter and gone back to workbench and vlicked MAC from the machandler folder. "already mounted". My fh3 has always remained on the desktop, usable as an amiga hd. But it is now also usable on the mac side. No files from the mac side is visible on workbench and no files from the amiga side is visible in finder. Am i missing something?

Also, i am unable to get agaboost running. I am on an ACA 1232/ec 40mhz. Ive tried pal hires and laced, 256colors and refresh2 and 3. I feel stupid and would GREATLY appreciate any help or nods in the cirrect directiln.

Sorry for the spelling, i am on my phone and the keyboard is not agreeing with me.
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 02:55:37 AM »
Quote from: amiman99;765172
MacHandler creates Icon on desktop with the same name as MacOS HD name, so make sure MacOs hd name side is different then your partition, I'm not sure if that's possible.
You could created hardfile to transfer your files and mount it as your second drive.
In the MAC handler icon's INFO, change the ToolType to ACTIVATE=2 and STARTUP=2
1 is for first boot drive, 2 is for the second.


Thank you! I changed the name of the HD of the partition on both sides, rebooted and it actually worked. I don't understand how, but I was able to move some games over and decompress them. I even managed to boot into the OS using AGAboost. Everything is moving PAINFULLY slow, but it works. I don't see how it can be possible to play a game on this setup, but it is fun to have MacOS 7.6.1 running inside the Workbench.

I have seen people playing Wolfenstein on a similar setup to mine, but I was just barely able to get Masters of Orion crawling along.
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2014, 08:57:49 AM »
I tried using a different rom (quadra), but it made little or no differenece. I was using LC III. The OS is running smoothly, but processing is slow, on 2-4 colors, however 256 (for running games) is just completely unusable. About 1-5 fps. I remember getting great results with 060 and RTG, having no problems running Settlers II or similar games, but off course I'm not surprised there is a big difference to 030 AGA.

I would love to get some older games running tough. Finale (for musical notation. Of which there are no good alternatives on 3.x) seems usable, which is good. It runs in two colors and   quite smoothly.
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2018, 08:21:35 PM »
Ok, I'm going to necromance this thread for a bit. I keep forgetting how this thing works every time I try to set it up. It's always years between each try, and this time the insanely helpfull hardfile made by Cammy is nowhere to be found. :(

So I'me setting things up on winuae now, on a CF-card that is going in my A1200. At the moment I still have the aformentioned ACA1232 but I am in the marked for something faster so mac-emulation is on the table again. :)

I have the System 7.6.1 CD and ISO and I am trying to get the OS installed in shapeshifter through workbench 3.1 on Winuae. It's turning into a bit of a puzzle. I am able to get the iso unto winuae and mounted in WB 3.1 but as CD0:???. I'm assuming the amiga is confused about the filesystem. So I thought that shapeshifter might make sense of it but shapeshifters "BOOT FROM: CD ROM" makes no difference.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2018, 10:36:19 PM »
Quote from: kreciu;838172
On O30/40Mhz and AGA don't try to install it with 256 color, that is for sure (later you can try it but...). It will make things way faster. Try 16 colors.

Installation from floppies works the same as any Mac from the time you start Shapeshifter? IF you don't have floppy in the drive Shapeshifter/Macrom will ask for disc from which you will install MacOS. The same with CD, you should be able to boot from CD, IF everything is configured in Shapeshifter properly (and there is not that much... actually!).


Thank you for the response, Kreciu. I don't have to OS on floppies sadly. It is the setup og the CD I am enquiering about really. I don't have a CD-rom on my Amiga, so I am setting everything up in winuae, and I cannot figure out how to do it so that shapeshifter sees the CD (workbench sees it fine, but as CD0:???).
 

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Re: How on EARTH do i get shapeshifter going?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 10:17:48 AM »
I've managed to boot now, using a boot disk. And I've managed to initialize the HDD partition. It seems that Shapeshifter sees the CD's just fine, just none of the System 7.6.1 ISO's I've found. The system recovery CD shows up in the mac without problem. So I guess it IS all set up correctly, It's just the CD images that are either corrupt or in a format that my shapeshifting Amiga fails to understand.

EDIT: And now I've managed to install System 7.5.3 without trouble. It seems there was something with system 7.6.1 that made things go belly up. None of the 4 iso's I found worked. I'll make sure to save these files that I've used and upload them somewhere now that Cammy's hdf is lost.
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