79 available systems for MorphOS 3.5

[nicholas]

http://www.geit.de/eng_grunch.html

No MorphOS install should be without it.

[ChaosLord]

I wish you would list how much chipram each of the Macs in your list comes with.

I am only interested in one with at least 128MB chipram. (gfx card ram)

I am sure others feel the same way as me.

Furthermore I am only interested in the models that support gfx of at least 1280x1024 resolution with 32bits per pixel.

I know absolutely nothing about mac hardware.

[Fab]

@ChaosLord

Well, in PowerMac G4 and PowerMac G5 you can choose your radeon with 128MB.
Powerbook 5,8 (and 5,9?) also comes with a radeon 9700 / 128MB.

But anyway, MorphOS deals relatively efficiently with video ram, so even with 32MB, you can have a big 32bit hd resolution without slowdown and open as many screens/windows as you like. You just have to disable enhanced display (composition system) in this case. Of course, 3d apps requiring big amounts of video ram are another matter (but i can only think of blender, ufo ai and torcs/speed dreams here).

[TheMagicM]

I wish you would list how much chipram each of the Macs in your list comes with.

I am only interested in one with at least 128MB chipram. (gfx card ram)

I am sure others feel the same way as me.

Furthermore I am only interested in the models that support gfx of at least 1280x1024 resolution with 32bits per pixel.

I know absolutely nothing about mac hardware.

Dont know what thats all about...

But my graphics card in my G5 has 128MB RAM and I currently run 1280x1024.

[nicholas]

I wish you would list how much chipram each of the Macs in your list comes with.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/index-apple-specs-applespec.html

You can always upgrade the graphics card in a PowerMac G4/G5 if you want a better one.

http://ebay.com/search?cad=1&so=12&isNewKw=true&cmd=SREF&call=1&acimp=0&kw=radeon+mac&mfs=SBCLK

[klx300r]

great thread Grandma !

passed this thread over to a bunch of Mac head friends and 2 already emailed me back saying they'll definitely try out MOS on their older Macs so hopefully we'll have a few more Amiga users soon:D

[TheMagicM]

For general MorphOS chit chat..come hang out on irc.freenode.net #morphos :-)

[takemehomegrandma]

I wish you would list how much chipram each of the Macs in your list comes with.

That would have been nice to have in the list, yes. Unfortunately there seems to be no way to edit the posts now. But you can always click the links to get very detailed information of each and every machine, including GFX cards. Later models generally have better specs.

I am only interested in one with at least 128MB chipram. (gfx card ram)

I am sure others feel the same way as me.

64MB is really sufficient for most (no kidding), and even 32MB works fine without any noticeable sacrifices.

Just so you know!

[ChaosLord]

That would have been nice to have in the list, yes. Unfortunately there seems to be no way to edit the posts now. But you can always click the links to get very detailed information of each and every machine, including GFX cards. Later models generally have better specs.





64MB is really sufficient for most (no kidding), and even 32MB works fine without any noticeable sacrifices.

Just so you know!

If I code a game for MOS I need 128MB chipram at a bare cramped minimum for a 1280x1024x32bpp game.

If I am limited to 32MB chipram then the framerate would drop a lot and the coding of the game would be really annoying and just not worth it to me.

It kind of sounds like what a lot of ppl are telling me is:
1. A lot of MOS users cannot even display 1280x1024 gfx because some users have those old imacs with the built-in lores monitor that can NEVER be upgraded.

2. A lot of the MOS users who can display 1280x1024 (or higher) screens have only small amounts of chipram like 32MB or 64MB because nobody ever bothered to make some awesome games that use more than that.

So it sounds like if I made a MOS game I would be limited to like 5 MOS users in the whole world that could play it.  Would that be accurate?

[kickstart]

@chaoslord

Define "awesome game"...

[nicholas]

FWIW my PowerBook 5,8 has 128MB video RAM and a 1440x900 display.

[takemehomegrandma]

A lot of MOS users cannot even display 1280x1024

What!?

:huh:

So it sounds like if I made a MOS game I would be limited to like 5 MOS users in the whole world that could play it.  Would that be accurate?

No.

[TheMagicM]

@chaoslord

define "awesome game"...

qft.

[ChaosLord]

@chaoslord

Define "awesome game"...

The kind that needs 128MB+ of Chipram


What is the most chipram I can get in a MOS machine?

The Radeon cards I looked at for oldsk00l Classic Amigas have 256MB of RAM on them but they are split into 2 banks of 128MB.  Due to the way P96 and CGX are coded, they can only use one bank of ram so they are stuck with only 128MB of RTG RAM which cramps me.

[LoadWB]

@chaoslord

Define "awesome game"...

Dark Castle?

[ChaosLord]

What!?

:huh:



No.

A couple of years ago I looked at some MOS Macs and they were permanently limited to 1024x768.  I was warned not to get one of those.  Now that I have your reassurance, I feel very glad that they did not become popular in the MOS community.