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Offline Duce

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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2012, 03:13:49 PM »
Quote from: persia;717190
Best response from Hyperion would be to retaliate and make aOS 4.x available on old PPC Macs...


One can only dream.
 

Offline Everblue

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2012, 03:48:10 PM »
What if they stop supporting Acube hardware in retaliation?
 

Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2012, 04:48:47 PM »
Quote from: JJ;717177
That took for ever boot, and the screen update was well slow, guessing this because relevant drivers not optimized for the board yet.

If the time difference between other hardware release videos and actually release is anything to go by, this could be a year before sam version is released


AFAIK it is using the onboard SM502 without hardware acceleration. I dont know if any r200 video cards are supported on this board yet. On the other hand you dont need another SATA controller to install/use MorphOS on this machine.
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Offline Tripitaka

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2012, 05:09:36 PM »
Quote from: itix;717166
Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for.


Therefore they would never have appeared on most of our shopping lists without Hyperion's involvement and MorphOS wouldn't be on a platform that's currently being manufactured. My point to begin with.
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Offline Tripitaka

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2012, 05:11:49 PM »
Quote from: persia;717190
Best response from Hyperion would be to retaliate and make aOS 4.x available on old PPC Macs...

Better to spend the time putting OS4 on a portable machine I think, but it would be amusing.

So, when do we get MorphOS for X1000?
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 05:14:56 PM by Tripitaka »
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2012, 06:07:09 PM »
Quote from: Tripitaka;717202
Therefore they would never have appeared on most of our shopping lists without Hyperion's involvement and MorphOS wouldn't be on a platform that's currently being manufactured. My point to begin with.

ACube is obviously important partner to Hyperion, no doubt about it.

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So, when do we get MorphOS for X1000?

Tell your friends to wait for X2000 instead.
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Offline Hans_

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2012, 07:34:26 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;717169
"Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for."

People keep saying that, but its just not true. No way embedded customers are using these boards. There are hundreds of embedded solutions that are a tenth (or less) of the cost of these boards, and even at a tenth of the
price those other embedded boards have modern specs, not 10 year old specs.

I'm not so sure about "hundreds of embedded solutions" being a tenth or less of the cost. Embedded hardware for industrial purposes tends to be on the expensive side. I once sent a price enquiry to an embedded hardware manufacturer for a CompactPCI motherboard, and these guys were charging ~$2000 US just for the Linux drivers for the onboard peripherals! That's on top of the cost of the board, and the backplane, etc. Needless to say, they were dumped from the list pretty quickly. Nevertheless, they were solely selling embedded systems to industry...

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Offline TheBilgeRat

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2012, 07:54:42 PM »
Quote from: karlos;717182
one rig to run them all, one rig to find them,
one rig to bring them all and in the hobby bind them.

QFTf! :D
 

Offline dammy

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2012, 07:55:43 PM »
Quote from: Everblue;717195
What if they stop supporting Acube hardware in retaliation?


When was the last time they directly supported ACube's hardware?  SAM440s?
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Offline andst

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2012, 09:59:44 PM »
Hey cool, I was just wondering how to do code testing on Morphos.  Now the only remaining challenge is how to quadruple-boot the 460...
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Offline Matt_H

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2012, 03:45:18 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;717182
One rig to run them all, one rig to find them,
One rig to bring them all and in the hobby bind them.


Very nicely put!

Quote from: haywirepc;717169
"Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for."

People keep saying that, but its just not true. No way embedded customers are using these boards. There are hundreds of embedded solutions that are a tenth (or less) of the cost of these boards, and even at a tenth of the
price those other embedded boards have modern specs, not 10 year old specs.

Maybe they were originally designed with that purpose in mind but there is no way embedded customers are buying up these boards or providing acube with any significant customer base. These boards are just WAY under powered, WAY outdated, and WAY overpriced boards for amigaOS - and now AROS PPC,  and MORPHOS.

Well I guess all those people who complain about used hardware can shut up now, if you really want brand new hardware for morphOS there it is.

Me? I'd rather buy a good condition powermac g4 for a tenth of the price.


I just don't see how ACube could be staying in business on the Amiga alone. They've got to have industrial customers behind the scenes making use of the features and ports not used - and sometimes not even present - on the "consumer" versions of the boards (i.e., the ones we see).

Who knows, 20 years from now maybe some municipal lighting system will be overhauled and we'll see SAMs unearthed from within the old control stations. :)
 

Offline persia

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2012, 03:46:43 AM »
And that would be different to now?

Quote from: Everblue;717195
What if they stop supporting Acube hardware in retaliation?
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Offline Bamiga2002

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2012, 08:14:00 AM »
This is good news! :)
Both red & blue, I salute you!
Gets me thinking of buying the SAM for both OS's.

Now bring on the benchmarks :swords: !!
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Offline Rob

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2012, 10:16:37 AM »
Quote from: itix;717200
AFAIK it is using the onboard SM502 without hardware acceleration. I dont know if any r200 video cards are supported on this board yet. On the other hand you dont need another SATA controller to install/use MorphOS on this machine.


I got the impression from the video that they must be running SM502.  It's really weak and benches around the same as a Permedia 2 on an A1200 in GFXBench2D.
Shouldn't the R200 driver work out of the box anyway.  Despite that I think it makes sense to support the lowest common denominator since not every Sam460 owner will have an R200 card.

This is a very early alpha and could be some time before a release by which time MorphOS might well be supporting cards cards newer than R300 anyway.

I look forward to seeing more details on this project.
 

Offline Tripitaka

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2012, 11:49:33 AM »
Quote from: persia;717263
And that would be different to now?


Apart from updates to OS4, what other support do you think they should be providing?

The above comment is not just directed at Persia but at all those who keep making absurd digs about Hyperion not supporting SAM boards.
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