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Offline Rob

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2012, 06:54:52 AM »
Quote from: Methuselas;717123
I'm actually surprised the "Blue Heretics" haven't chimed in on this yet.... :razz: :lol:


The rabids are hailing it as the OS4 endgame (yet again) over at the moo.  Always good for a laugh over there.
 

Offline Methuselas

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2012, 07:49:00 AM »
Quote from: Rob;717158
The rabids are hailing it as the OS4 endgame (yet again) over at the moo.  Always good for a laugh over there.

Considering I spend about as much time there, as I do in Thailand, contracting syphilis from street walkers, I had no idea it was the "endgame." Of course, all that does is detract me even further from MorphOS.


Not surprising, though...... :confused:
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2012, 09:01:54 AM »
Quote from: Tripitaka;717112
Those heathen mobos wouldn't be around if Hyperion didn't go to them for an OS4 platform


Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for.
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2012, 09:06:29 AM »
Quote from: Rob;717158
The rabids are hailing it as the OS4 endgame (yet again) over at the moo.  Always good for a laugh over there.


Looks like "red heretics" are getting mad because MorphOS is ported to yet another hardware...?
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2012, 09:15:03 AM »
Good news for Sam 460 owners.

:)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline haywirepc

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2012, 09:26:04 AM »
"Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for."

People keep saying that, but its just not true. No way embedded customers are using these boards. There are hundreds of embedded solutions that are a tenth (or less) of the cost of these boards, and even at a tenth of the
price those other embedded boards have modern specs, not 10 year old specs.

Maybe they were originally designed with that purpose in mind but there is no way embedded customers are buying up these boards or providing acube with any significant customer base. These boards are just WAY under powered, WAY outdated, and WAY overpriced boards for amigaOS - and now AROS PPC,  and MORPHOS.

Well I guess all those people who complain about used hardware can shut up now, if you really want brand new hardware for morphOS there it is.

Me? I'd rather buy a good condition powermac g4 for a tenth of the price.
 

Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2012, 09:26:05 AM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;717168
Good news for Sam 460 owners.

:)

Now they can have new MorphOS without buying another system. ;-)
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 09:37:46 AM by itix »
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2012, 09:37:18 AM »
Quote from: haywirepc;717169
"Acube's primary market is embedded customer and that is what those boards are designed for."

People keep saying that, but its just not true. No way embedded customers are using these boards. There are hundreds of embedded solutions that are a tenth (or less) of the cost of these boards, and even at a tenth of the
price those other embedded boards have modern specs, not 10 year old specs.

Maybe they were originally designed with that purpose in mind but there is no way embedded customers are buying up these boards or providing acube with any significant customer base. These boards are just WAY under powered, WAY outdated, and WAY overpriced boards for amigaOS - and now AROS PPC,  and MORPHOS.


Yes it would explain why SAM is available in small quantities only. But SAM platform is an embedded platform. It is using an embedded CPU, it has got FPGA (useless to desktop users), it has got SM502 graphics adapter what is not very useful for desktop use (low resolution, lack of gfx acceleration) and many "useless" ports.

I dont know if Acube is selling those boards at all outside Amiga market but it certainly was designed for embedded customers not using Amiga. As an evaluation board there is always small, tiny demand.
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2012, 09:39:58 AM »
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Offline jj

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2012, 10:56:51 AM »
Quote from: eliyahu;717146
Absolutely! This certainly adds to my enthusiasm for grabbing a SAM460ex next year. One of the reasons I was so interested in getting a pegasos2 was the ability to run both AmigaOS and MorphOS on the same machine -- and I enjoy the ability to do so. I also hope this might lead to support for RadeonHD cards on MorphOS eventually.

In fact with AmigaOS 4.1, MorphOS, and AROS all eventually able to run natively on the SAM460ex, it might not be the fastest next-generation Amiga system, but it certainly will be the most compatible. Rock on, Acube! :)

Edit: For those of you on Facebook there is a video of the MorphOS prototype booting up.

-- eliyahu


That took for ever boot, and the screen update was well slow, guessing this because relevant drivers not optimized for the board yet.

If the time difference between other hardware release videos and actually release is anything to go by, this could be a year before sam version is released
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Offline Templario

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2012, 11:03:04 AM »
Quote from: Methuselas;717123
I'm actually surprised the "Blue Heretics" haven't chimed in on this yet.... :razz: :lol:

Man, the Blue heretics and Red devils, it is scoccer game?
because I'm both, I have MOS and OS4 and OS3.9
Now we have a chance of squeeze our Sam460ex series.
Amiga 500 with ROMs 1.3-2.05 and M-Tec AT 500 with hard disk and 4MB Ram.
WinUAE + Original OS 3.5&3.9
Sam440ep 800 MHZ + OS 4.1 F.E.
Sam460ex 1 GHz + OS 4.1 + Update 6. K.O.
MacMini 1.5 GHz + MorphOS 3.9
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Offline Templario

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2012, 11:06:00 AM »
Is there a multiboot selector? because with so OS for the Sams where choose, it is incredible, 5 OS availables for this board.
Amiga 500 with ROMs 1.3-2.05 and M-Tec AT 500 with hard disk and 4MB Ram.
WinUAE + Original OS 3.5&3.9
Sam440ep 800 MHZ + OS 4.1 F.E.
Sam460ex 1 GHz + OS 4.1 + Update 6. K.O.
MacMini 1.5 GHz + MorphOS 3.9
PowerBook G4 1.65 + MorphOS 3.9
 

Offline Karlos

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 12:57:40 PM »
One rig to run them all, one rig to find them,
One rig to bring them all and in the hobby bind them.
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Offline eliyahu

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2012, 01:24:35 PM »
Quote from: JJ;717177
That took for ever boot, and the screen update was well slow, guessing this because relevant drivers not optimized for the board yet.

If the time difference between other hardware release videos and actually release is anything to go by, this could be a year before sam version is released
it's early days, but the thing will fly once completed. OS4 is brilliantly fast on that little board, especially the development builds i got to play with at amiwest this year, so i'm sure MOS will be equally as fast, if not faster.

does anyone know if the MOS version for the SAM will support the onboard SM502, or will it require a R200 video board? and what about sound: will it support the SM502 or need a third-party sound card? if it were up to me, i'd skip bothering with the SM502 -- slow and poor documentation. nearly everyone who already has one of these machines uses another video card, albeit a radeon HD card. with u-boot being updated to support PCIe-to-PCI bridges, there's really no need to futz with the siliconmotion chip.

who's working on the port, by the way? is it just frank or are others involved?

-- eliyahu
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Offline persia

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2012, 02:24:04 PM »
Best response from Hyperion would be to retaliate and make aOS 4.x available on old PPC Macs...
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