Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS

[XDelusion]

MorphOS Customer Service Memo

haha I miss that site.

Funny funny, and sometimes that certainly seems true, but MorphOS (aside of the beef I'm having in particular) is quite polished, is pretty well documented, and I have received friendly help mostly.

Also, Fab has always seemed to listen to the users, I can say that! He's a good man.

[haywirepc]

If someone buys me a g4 mac mini I'll give morphos a spin, otherwise I'm sticking with AROS, but like I said its a system for games and fun, not for getting any serious work done...

Steven

[Crumb]

Is that in the pipeline?

I don't think so, Isochronous USB transfers are not planned at all so that rules out most USB soundcards

[kolla]

So far all my best music apps remain on my classic Amiga.

OctaMED SS and HD-Rec.

Heck yeah, and they also work nicely with Minimig, looking forward to trying them out on FPGA Arcade

Anyhow though the MorphOS team did not make Apple's hardware, I do feel that they should put MorphOS' audio, midi, wireless, and USB to the top of their priority list.

Totally agree, the focus has been on video playback and framerates in Quake for way too long.

All in all, the Amiga was always known as a media system, so why aren't next gen Amiga OS' putting media and creativity in the fore front?!?!?

Because they can finally watch youtube with OWB - that has kept them busy for years.

[kolla]

Isochronous USB transfers are not planned at all so that rules out most USB soundcards

Should we make a list of modern OS features that are not planned for MorphOS? It would be a very long list

[Methuselas]

So I say, leave windows or osx for your music and video production needs, and leave your amiga for everything else.

+1


I have the same conundrum. Maya (and Max, unfortunately) for 3D work, After Effects and Photoshop/Painter for post production and Reason with Cubase for Sound. Sucks, but that's life. I hardly ever boot to my Amithlon drive now. Will be even less, when I finish building my new AM3+ rig.....

[spirantho]

I don't think so, Isochronous USB transfers are not planned at all so that rules out most USB soundcards

That's a er... "brave" decision.

If I can run a USB sound card on my Amiga 4000 with OS 3.9 or OS 4 (via Poseidon), why can't MorphOS do it?

Edit: Just to point out - OS 4 can't do it natively either - but I strongly imagine support is at least planned.

[jj]

Stop dicking around with sub standard software on that machine and just use fruity loops on a pc

[hooligan]

Should we make a list of modern OS features that are not planned for MorphOS? It would be a very long list

You are probably very welcome to join their small team to write these missing features

[hooligan]

Stop dicking around with sub standard software on that machine and just use fruity loops on a pc

Fruity sounds too gay.. so Renoise it is

[jj]

Not tired renoise.  Love fruity loops.  Like the workflow.  Got tthe full signature edition

[Fab]

That's a er... "brave" decision.
If I can run a USB sound card on my Amiga 4000 with OS 3.9 or OS 4 (via Poseidon), why can't MorphOS do it?

Poseidon supports isochronous transfers if the underlying device supports it. Deneb driver supports it, pciusb.device doesn't, that's all. And MorphOS on an Amiga would also support it, by the way.

@Kolla
Making Youtube work only kept me busy, and not that long.

[spirantho]

Poseidon supports isochronous transfers if the underlying device supports it. Deneb driver supports it, pciusb.device doesn't, that's all. And MorphOS on an Amiga would also support it, by the way.

Yeah, that's why I wanted to point out that OS 4 doesn't natively support it either. Only fair.

It does seem strange to not even support it, though - I mean USB 2 is the standard for practically everything these days. If I were working on MOS I'd prioritise that over supporting another type of machine any day. But then I don't know what the MOS team are working on....

[drHirudo]

But then I don't know what the MOS team are working on....

Pointing out AmigaOne hardware flaws

[Crumb]

That's a er... "brave" decision.

I guess there are not enough resources. At least it was not planned some years ago, perhaps plans change if there´s enough demand.

If I can run a USB sound card on my Amiga 4000 with OS 3.9 or OS 4 (via Poseidon), why can't MorphOS do it?

Have you ever tried running MorphOS 1.4.5 on your 4000? MorphOS will run your USB soundcard (or webcam) perfectly, the problem is USB PCI driver, not MorphOS. Deneb is the only card for amiga systems with drivers that include isochronous transfers support (and it works perfectly on MorphOS).

[spirantho]

I wanted to, actually, but it never supported my Prometheus, so I couldn't.
My point wasn't that AOS 4 was better than MOS - it's not, it's the same, here - but that MOS (and AOS) are actually behind OS 3 - at least when you include third party software. It's a bit crazy that the only Amiga to be able to do isochronous connections is the 20 year-old A3000/A4000, especially when USB is by far the standard interface these days.