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Offline amigadave

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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 08:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Lurch;684130
Have my Power Mac on it's way to give 3.0 a try :-) Just wish they supported more video cards, there are some cheaper options (and faster) than 9000/9100/9200/9250 ;-)

I had a friend re-flash my Radeon 8500 PC video card to work in my G4 PowerMac, so I can use it when running MorphOS2.7.  I think it might be the fastest video card that is fully supported by MorphOS with 3D drivers.

It is a 128mb VRAM video card, but unfortunately the Mac bios for it only allows 64mb of that VRAM to be seen when converted and used in a Mac.  Since I never ran into a low video RAM problem with my current Radeon 9000Pro, which only has 64mb of VRAM, I am not expecting any problems with the Radeon 8500 with only half of its 128mb of VRAM recognized.

I highly recommend the Radeon 8500 (but not the 8500LE) for use in a MorphOS G4 PowerMac.  Soon we expect more drivers for other newer and faster (or as fast) video cards than the 8500, but until they are finished, you can't go wrong with the Radeon 8500.  If you can find one on eBay, or Craig's List at a low price, buy it.

As for the question about when will MorphOS3.0 be released, I can only repeat what I previously wrote.  Writing drivers for undocumented hardware is not an easy task.  I would guess that there is one or more part of MorphOS3.0 for the G4 PowerBook that is giving the MorphOS Dev. Team problems, or they are just not satisfied with some parts that have been worked on, but are not really finished.

No telling what is holding up the release, but I know from my own experience with prior releases of MorphOS, that the standard of quality that the MorphOS Dev. Team holds themselves to on each new release, is very high, so I am sure that they don't want to lower that standard for this very important milestone in the development of MorphOS, by releasing a version of MorphOS3.0 that is any less in quality than their prior releases.

I have confidence that there is a good reason for the delay and I agree with the MorphOS Dev. Team's prior (and apparently current) practice of not releasing versions of MorphOS that are not ready for the general public.  I can confirm from my use of the beta version that was given to me last Oct. for the AmiWest Show, that it was not yet ready for release at that time, but I won't comment on what parts still needed work.

I can only repeat my earlier advice of patience.  The MorphOS Dev. Team has an excellent track record for knowing when their work is ready for a release, so trust them to know when 3.0 is ready for release.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 08:33:13 PM by amigadave »
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 08:27:06 PM »
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It's march now, any news?


Two more weeks!
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Offline Iggy

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 08:38:12 PM »
Quote from: Transition;684188
Two more weeks!

Is that real information, a joke, or another tease?
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 11:31:55 PM »
Quote from: Transition;684188
Two more weeks!

Seriously Tedd?
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 03:53:41 AM »
HUH!!!

I must be at the wrong site, I thought this was an Amiga site. But all I see here is a bunch of MAC fanboys.

Gosh I think the new owner sold us out, he probably is a MAC fanboy too!!!

smerf
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 03:56:24 AM »
Hi,

Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???

Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.

Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,

smerf
I have no idea what your talking about, so here is a doggy with a small pancake on his head.

MorphOS is a MAC done a little better
 

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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 05:07:33 AM »
Quote from: Transition;684188
Two more weeks!

that is the same "Two more weeks!" as the delivery date for Aladdin v6.0 for Amiga.

In other words, they will be done when they are done.

@smerf,

If you are going to get so upset about MorphOS users writing about the hardware that it runs on, you had better avoid the MorphOS -- Hardware requirements and availability discussion forum here on Amiga.org.

You do realize that this site supports many different Amiga inspired platforms and has separate forums for each of them.  You would experience a lot less upset and sick feelings if you would just avoid reading anything in the MorphOS forum sections, as the most popular hardware that MorphOS runs on right now is made by a manufacturer that makes you ill just to think of.  That is a personal problem that not many members here share with you.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 05:11:56 AM by amigadave »
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Offline Krischan76

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 06:46:54 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;684186
I have confidence that there is a good reason for the delay


One developer temporarily not having access to his machine and another one breaking his wrist could cause some serious problems for a team that small with an amount of work that big and tricky.
 

Offline Templario

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 12:26:05 PM »
There are miuch delays and I want enjoy the new MorphOS 3.0 on my MacMini, and I bough the apple computer for this reason and the test my own software. Humm..
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2012, 03:37:57 PM »
Quote from: Templario;684280
There are miuch delays and I want enjoy the new MorphOS 3.0 on my MacMini, and I bough the apple computer for this reason and the test my own software. Humm..

2.7 runs just fine on the mini. The biggest improvement of 3.0 will be Powerbook support. Hence, if you have a 2.7 capable machine waiting for 3.0 is rather easy. Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.

Offline Boot_WB

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2012, 03:45:42 PM »
Quote from: zylesea;684298
2.7 runs just fine on the mini.

Indeed, and it has been stated that MorphOS 3.0 will be a free upgrade for owners of 2.x licenses (on the same piece of hardware, obviously).

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Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.

Inside knowledge, IRC Rumour, Or just a hunch?

Care to share? ;)
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Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 10:22:23 AM »
Quote from: zylesea;684298
2.7 runs just fine on the mini. The biggest improvement of 3.0 will be Powerbook support. Hence, if you have a 2.7 capable machine waiting for 3.0 is rather easy. Anyway, I am confident that waiting will not last too long anymore.
Only that I want more software and tools.....
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Offline Iggy

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 04:13:31 PM »
Quote from: smerf;684257
Hi,

Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???

Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.

Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,

smerf

Honestly Smerf,
Would you lay off?
If I could run MorphOS on another platform as fast as my Mac I would.
But the Pegasos tops out at 1.4GHz (and those processor cards are hard to find, most are 1GHz).
And here's a list of the non apple components in my Quicksilcer.

Processor card, memory, hard drives, DVD drive, video card, USB 2.0 card, Soundblaster Live card (this is not even supported by OSX), network card, and SCSI card.

So basically, the case, motherboard and power supply are Apple.
And I'm considering replacing the case and power supply.
I don't even have OSX on this machine.
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Offline Rodomoc

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »
Quote from: smerf;684254
HUH!!!
I must be at the wrong site, I thought this was an Amiga site. But all I see here is a bunch of MAC fanboys. Gosh I think the new owner sold us out, he probably is a MAC fanboy too!!!  smerf

What a strange posting... For normally wired individuals, obviously a mac is good, cheap hardware to run the MorphOS operating system on. It is not a fanboy issue, it is a logical one. Thus the quoted posting is non-productive. :laugh1:
 

Offline Methuselas

Re: Version 3.0
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 07:55:51 PM »
Quote from: smerf;684257
Hi,

Anybody seen any real Amiga users here???

Those who just dread about hearing about MAC junk, and go into a pukin rage whenever they touch a MAC.

Maybe Franko was right, and he saw this event coming, a bunch of Mac users taking over Amiga.org,

smerf


Perhaps you should join him, being banned or just have a nice cup of shut the f*ck up??!??

Seriously, who cares if MorphOS is using mac technology or not.

God, I can't stand *ANY* of these Amiga-flavored zealots...........

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