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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2011, 01:54:56 AM »
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I dont consider macmini video card adequate enough, I had a 128mb ram 9250 on my efika and that was fine with mos. but the common 32mb, no, and even the 64mb on 1.5ghz I dont consider good enough
AFAIK OS4 can address 256 MB VRAM maximally. That's more than MorphOS (currently 128 MB VRAM max). And what about RAM: Is OS4 able to address more than 1.5 GB RAM?
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2011, 02:36:06 AM »
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maybe you should read the frigging thread from the begining, this thread would not exist if I already owned one to freaking benchmark. I do not own one, I have some money from selling some stuff on ebay, so I thought mmm maybe I could buy a sam 460ex motherboard.. thats a neat idea..

 1954 Belgian FN-FAL.

 Sure, and I even said, when MoS supports G5's and can use all 16gb ram, I'll be looking at it for sure with bells on! :)

I dont consider macmini video card adequate enough, I had a 128mb ram 9250 on my efika and that was fine with mos. but the common 32mb, no, and even the 64mb on 1.5ghz I dont consider good enough

I've heard of the FN-FAL. Serious kick ass gun.You've got good taste. And yes the Mac Mini doesn't cut it, neither do the Acube boards, and the X1000's way over priced.

The G5s will be limited by the MorphOS development teams statement that the R400 series will be the highest graphic card to be supported for the time being.
Once PCI-e G5s are supported,  hopefully we'll see something better. But I'm not giving up my X86 anytime some.

You should take this a little less seriously. Its a hobby dude and as far as I can tell that's all its likely to ever be. You're coming off as a little overwrought.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2011, 02:39:29 AM »
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Easy: Because I can continue to use a computer system I am used to (MorphOS/Amiga) since 20+ years and that just follows my logic. And for these prerequesite I want the best I can get. Maybe it's debatable whether AROS or MorphOS rule here. AROS has the more powerful hw, MorphOS the more matured OS + apps.


Fair enough. Once you qualify your statement, it makes sense.

In time, I imagine AROS will be the end result of all this stuff.
 

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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2011, 03:43:56 AM »
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You should take this a little less seriously. Its a hobby dude and as far as I can tell that's all its likely to ever be. You're coming off as a little overwrought.


Take your own advice dude. I started this thread about the SAM because I am interested in the sam460 and amigaos 4.1. You were the one to come in and crap all over it with your my powermac runs circles around sam
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2011, 03:53:59 AM »
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Take your own advice dude. I started this thread about the SAM because I am interested in the sam460 and amigaos 4.1. You were the one to come in and crap all over it with your my powermac runs circles around sam

Well stated. I am happy with how well my system works, but I am also interested in the SAM. Currently on MorphZone there is a long standing thread on the SAM 460. And I'm really interested in the new processor series that Applied Micro (the manufacturer of the processors in the SAMs) is readying to replace Titan.

I wouldn't want to discourage you, or anyone else in the AOS4.1 market from taking the plunge. The more PPC users there are (regardless of OS camp) strengthen our total market. There is very little complication in porting between all three NG OS'. So, the more the merrier.
Good luck with your project.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2011, 10:24:42 AM »
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Yeah and we know that you OS4 guys like playing with expensive and slow HW. ;)

Oh my god, Piru did a funny , mark the date and time :) :)
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2011, 10:28:40 AM »
The only reason I Post about MorphOS is to point out the massive performance/cost benefit over AOS4.
 
Honeslty MorphOS is AOS in all but name.   You people have to try it if AOS is your thing.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2011, 12:01:07 PM »
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how many windows can morphos do for composition/3d with a 32mb radeon 9250 vs a radeonhd 4650 1gb on my sam build amigaos 4.1 when your running a 1920x1200 screen?


AmigaOS 4 has no 3D driver for HD4650.

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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2011, 01:41:23 PM »
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AmigaOS 4 has no 3D driver for HD4650.

That is similar to MorphOS' situation with higher cards. When I recently decided to upgrade my Radeon 9200 I ordered a 9100 rather than a 9800XT for the same reason.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2011, 01:51:01 PM »
I do believe Hans de Ruiter is working on composition/3d for the 4000 series currently. It is his dirver acube ship with sam460
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2011, 02:01:07 PM »
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The only reason I Post about MorphOS is to point out the massive performance/cost benefit over AOS4.
 
Honeslty MorphOS is AOS in all but name.   You people have to try it if AOS is your thing.

the only reason is the wrong reason in this thread because yakumo9275 specifically only asked about the Sam460ex.  After the usual MOS suspects attacked & the OP, as well as others, told you to stop it & surprise surprise you guys are still at it.

Please create another thread about the virtues of MOS on old Macs and try to stop putting down other camps for a change.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2011, 02:10:27 PM »
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the only reason is the wrong reason in this thread because yakumo9275 specifically only asked about the Sam460ex.  After the usual MOS suspects attacked & the OP, as well as others, told you to stop it & surprise surprise you guys are still at it.

Please create another thread about the virtues of MOS on old Macs and try to stop putting down other camps for a change.

Attacked? Funny that... I guess it depends on your perspective, maybe you could take a chill pill and read all posts in the thread again?
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2011, 02:13:56 PM »
@ Piru

                                                                  "Quote:
                                                      Originally Posted by klx300r                             
             yaya we know you MOS guys like playing with old Macs
                         
 Yeah and we know that you OS4 guys like playing with expensive and slow HW. ;)"

well I guess these two statements sum things up pretty much eh:afro:

hey I've said it many times and I'll say it again, I've got great respect for the MOS devs cause back when things looked soo dark for AOS and no new hardwware was in site they kept the spirit of NG Amiga alive! I came sooo close to getting a Peg to run MOS on but then ACube came through with new hardware and the damn court case was over and I chose to support ACube & AOS.
Nothing wrong with either decision really so i don't get the hoopla:confused:
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2011, 02:15:18 PM »
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Attacked? Funny that... I guess it depends on your perspective, maybe you could take a chill pill and read all posts in the thread again?

figure of speech...perhaps you should read all posts in the thread again?
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2011, 02:21:02 PM »
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figure of speech...perhaps you should read all posts in the thread again?

You know I actually did before I wrote my post, just to see who did the derailing.
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Re: SAMs 440/460
« Reply #44 from previous page: January 26, 2011, 02:35:42 PM »
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You know I actually did before I wrote my post, just to see who did the derailing.

very good now I wonder what purpose do posts no 5 and 7 serve in this thread, not to mention others ? hmmm

post no 5, JJ wrote:

"I can very truthfully say I have and will  not pay that sort of money  for a Sam board when for a fraction of the cost I can and have got a mac  mini which is more powerful (not as expandable I admit) and run a  better next gen AmigaOS in the form of MorphOS"

post no 7, Dwyloc wrote:

"Yeah, I'm looking at new parts for my Powermac. I already have a  Soundblaster Llive, an Nec based 2.0 card, now I want to upgrade from a  Radeon 9200 to a 9100 and add an SATA controller.

For the price of a bare SAM, I could buy two completely outfitted Mac.       "
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