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In desparate need of a flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« on: September 18, 2010, 09:12:19 AM »
Hi,

My 1084S-D1 died out after 20 years and I just need to get it back into action. I can't stand using my Amigas with any other monitor or TV that I can get a hold of.

Sadly, I can't get a hold of another 1084S as they are very rare in my country (Poland) now. My only hope is to fix mine but I need a new flyback for it. The replacment flyback for the orignal 1084S-D1's flyback (Daewoo DCF1580) is HR46045 which is hard to find at a reasonable price since it's old and many people take the price into the realm of absurdity.

Maybe someone will be able to help me out by offering a flyback for 1084S-D1 in a good price? I would pay via paypal.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 09:47:15 PM »
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 08:08:54 AM »
I hate the image that modern VGA and LCD monitors are displaying when I use Amigas with them. I just love the softness and the colors of 1084S and I really can't use my ammys without it. Besides, scandoublers are even more expensive than I thought they would be.

The problem is also that... I'm poor. I can't afford a £70-100 (plus shippping).

There's also the fact that I've been using my 1084S-D1 with a variety of retro stuff, like NES and C64. I have a whole retro corner that was plugged to 1084S and now that corner is dead with its center part gone... :CRY:
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 03:33:43 PM »
God, I'm in such a bad luck. Even the guy from Surplus Traders can't help me out! This is what he wrote to me:

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Im sorry I do not have one...
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 04:09:29 PM »
Yes, there are many workarounds but the best and the fastest way is to get a flyback or a new 1084S. That's why I'm here, begging for help.
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 08:28:28 PM »
Yes, I'm from Poland and that's the problem. I'm poor and we don't have many 1084S here. Even if I can find the flyback on ebay, the price of the shipping will be so high that it really doesn't pay off, so to speak.

I really need some help. Please guys, help me out if you can. All that I have to spend is 45$ so it must include shipping.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 03:48:40 PM »
Quote from: JimS;580481
Did you check the solder joints on the flyback? I've seen a lot of 1084's fail because the joints to the circuit board open up. With the high frequencies in the flyback, it tends to vibrate & break the solder joints, which can just open up, or even arc & spark then burn up. It's worth a shot to touch up those solder joints & see what happens.
(Insert obligatory Danger Lethal Voltage warning here!)

http://www.suburban-electronics.com/products/Flybacks%2C-Yokes-%26-HV-Dividers---Flybacks---DAEWOO
No, the flyback is dead. I have given the monitor to a service shop and I have been told that it's deadly dead. Nothing can be done with it. As for the link you've posted - it's a great shop and the price is excellent but do they accept paypal and do they ship overseas? :<
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What you need is here:
http://www.hrshop.es/index.php?comma...l=1084&x=0&y=0

Prices vary depending on model, but you might find one within you budget
Surprisingly, hrshop.es doesn't have HR46045 any more but even if it was there - the price would be an overkill. The prices in that shop are ridiculously high.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 05:08:07 PM »
Jokes aside, please. This is a serious flyback business.

But if we are touching the subject... Is there a Chicago Pole here willing to help?
 

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Re: In desparate need of a flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 09:54:23 AM »
@nyteschayde Thank you so much, it will help enormously!





@Plaz: Sadly, HRShop doesn't have HR46045 any more, like I said before. As for that Equivalent Flybacks list - I know all of the equivalents but I have only found MSH1FCT31. I wanted to buy it but A) it's expensive (but now I will be able to buy it) B) I have been told that replacing a flyback is a tricky business and there are many problems with high voltage if you're using anything other that the original model. Will MSH1FCT31 really work?
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 01:03:12 PM »
The man that I have given the monitor to is a 30+-year-in-the-business friend of my dad. I don't know how good he is but I think he's quite good.

He said that the flyback died along with a resistor that made the flyback going. He took care of the resistor in a few minutes and also repaired the power switch but he failed at finding a replacement for the flyback and then he said that if I can find one myself, he will repair the monitor easily.

I hope he's right and there's nothing more than the dead flyback.

As for the picture tube of my 1084S-D - it's in great shape, that I am certain of.

BTW - great gallery!
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2010, 04:17:18 PM »
He told me that it's no use in rewinding flybacks because a regenerated flyback will die very quickly - it will live for a few months at best. Also, there's a big risk that something will be wrong and the whole monitor can just kick the bucket.

As for building my own flyback - I would just kill myself with the HV...
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 05:38:08 PM »
I have given up on the flyback at this point. It's too expensive and there is a risk that a replacment part will not work with my 1084S-D, as I have been told by some tech guys.

The hope is not dead yet, though. Thanks to the help of a very generous and kind man, I may be able to buy a new monitor. Ebay is out of the picture since shipping to Poland is truly pricey (sometimes it's over 60 EUR). Thankfully, we have a Polish web auction site that lists two 1084S-D right now. The problem is that those auctions generated a hell of attention and many people are bidding.

http://allegro.pl/commodore-1084s-d2-komplet-z-kartonem-patrz-opis-i1238069821.html
http://allegro.pl/monitor-commodore-1084s-black-cdtv-cd-tv-i1242864321.html

I don't even dream about the black one since it's considered a rarity among Polish Amiga fans and the price will be very high. But thanks to the help of the person I've mentioned above, I might just have enough money for the regular white one... It all depends how the listing will turn out.
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 08:45:08 PM »
There was no official support from Commodore International in Poland until 1991 and even after that the support was weak. Most people here imported things from Germany.

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 08:53:34 PM »
OK, let's hope I'll get lucky and will be able to buy a new monitor.

I'll post some low-quality pics of my little retro corner if I get a new monitor for it. Even if nobody wants to see them.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2010, 09:11:43 AM »
Quote from: tone007;580923
I've thrown away no less than 5 108x monitors over the past few months due to various small issues.  I just don't find them worthwhile.
Next time, please throw one to me.