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Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« on: August 11, 2009, 03:05:39 PM »
The magazine Obligement published today a comparative about performances between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II.

This comparative is based on 20 groups of benchmarks including boot time, processor, 3D, USB, IDE hard disk, WarpOS emulation, emulation 68k, etc.

No subjective comparison was made, all benchmarks are based on numbers.

The article is in french but very easy to understand, and it's available on http://obligement.free.fr/articles/amigaos41_vs_morphos23.php
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 04:05:15 PM »
Can not read frenchm, but from the figures would appear that AOS4 is much much slower at nearly everyhting.
 
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 07:02:14 PM »
my life is over, it is ruined...... aos4.1 lost and morphos win..... :(
 

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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 08:55:03 PM »
OS4 is completely run over by MorphOS. A good testemony to the MorphOS developers, and a big congratulations is in place! :-)

MorphOS has more and better features.
MorphOS has better Amiga compatibility.
MorphOS has better performance.

Now, is there a way of comparing overall system stability in general usage?
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 08:59:53 PM »
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my life is over, it is ruined...... aos4.1 lost and morphos win..... :(


Why?

Get a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz with 64M graphics memory and wait for the MorphOS release for that one! This will be one heck of experience, the fastest Amiga experience ever! :-)
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 09:02:01 PM »
IIRC the AOS4 Pegasus port uses a BIOS API for the hardware, can't remember it's name, that's probably one of the reasons why it's slower. As for the rest, dunno, they seem to have sacrificed compatibility for new features. But for some stuff MOS guys seem to have managed to do both at the same time:)
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 09:24:09 PM »
will there be any updates for the classic amigas?
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 09:26:33 PM »
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"MorphOS has more and better features.
MorphOS has better Amiga compatibility.
MorphOS has better performance.
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I see no compatibility or feature comparison there it's mostly about peformance.
2 things are not taken into account, the optimization of the software and that API thing I mentioned above.
And as the article says, which I think applies to most things:
"L'exemple de ZoneXplorer montre d'ailleurs que le Pegasos II G4 est plus lent qu'un AmigaOne G3. On peut aussi noter que la performance de certains tests est plus due à la façon dont a été compilé le logiciel qu'au système lui-même."
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 10:07:39 PM »
Interesting to see someone taking the time to test both but considering OS4.1 is not optimized for this hardware somehow kills the "fairness" of the experiment.  

Whatever the results, its how much I pay that will make me choose at the end....isn't it why I use a PC now?  :P
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 10:08:48 PM »
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@takemahomegra

I see no compatibility or feature comparison there it's mostly about peformance.


Indeed *this* test is about performance, the other things are known since before. Now, if we could find a way to compare the overall stability...
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 10:31:13 PM »
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my life is over, it is ruined...... aos4.1 lost and morphos win..... :(

Morphos have an active support and amiga os4 thats is the difference.
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 10:46:43 PM »
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Interesting to see someone taking the time to test both but considering OS4.1 is not optimized for this hardware


It isn't? Any link or so to back up such a serious claim? It surely hasn't been marketed and advertised as an "unoptimized" beta level OS to the paying customers, you know, rather the opposite. BTW, can I quote you on this on other forums?

And if your testimony would be true and correct, who is to blame? Surely not the MorphOS team. If Hyperion can't deliver a quality product that can give the competition a match, then it's *their* problem!

*This is* a fair comparison of what the paying customers of today get for their money. To bad if you don't like the results, but please don't make up lame excuses.

AFAIK, OS4 cost less, and I guess you get what you pay for...
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 11:09:16 PM »
@takemahomegrandma

The article states at the end that a G3 A1 performs better at some tests than the Peg2 (using AOS4), shouldn't that be enouph ?

That said I think it is a fair comparison if one takes into account what is actually compared, and that is the combination of the current Peg2 version of the OS and the current versions of the applications tested.
One thing that I think MOS would win anyway is on 3D, IIRC there was a design flaw somewhere because of Picasso RTG or something...
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Re: Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 11:18:02 PM »
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The article states at the end that a G3 A1 performs better at some tests than the Peg2 (using AOS4), shouldn't that be enouph ?


I have not the slightest idea of what the text in the article say, since it for some strange reason is written in an none-English language, that only a fraction of the world can understand. But numbers are numbers anywhere!

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That said I think it is a fair comparison if one takes into account what is actually compared


Yes indeed, the released (and sold) versions of OS 4.1 for Pegasos2, and MorphOS 2.3 for Pegasos2.

MorphOS wins.
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)