AmigaUpdate, Objectivity Lost.

[pixie]

AmigaOS is AMigaOS, MorphOS isn't because it doesn't share it's past... don't pretend it to be it anyother way...

MOS is a good clone, I don't say it isn't, but only that as the present day, and when it evolves, it will be of no interest to Amiga users, or at least no more interest then BeOS or QNX

[pixie]

TheMagicM: don't know

[bloodline]

AmigaOS is AMigaOS, MorphOS isn't because it doesn't share it's past... don't pretend it to be it anyother way...

What past? A common name?

I think you had better look into the technical issues you are tryign to make claims about before you make posts on a subject that many of us here have studied in great depth.

[TheMagicM]

I dont know about any user out there who actually *cares* if MorphOS doesnt share any link to the past of the Amiga..  Heck, I sure am glad it has no ties, otherwise, I'd be sitting here like the rest of the A1 hopefuls (sp) waiting for a OS other then Linux to come around.

(that was bad, but oh well, like everyone else a opinion will be posted)

[pixie]

@KennyR
His road... that what makes AmigaOS, MOS could have been his road, but (fortunatly/sadly) it wasn't... of course if it loose all of it's previosly features, it wouldn't be the case, but since it hasn't AOS 4 is built with exec on its core so... it's the sticker! ;b

[bloodline]

His road... that what makes AmigaOS, MOS could have been his road, but (fortunatly/sadly) it wasn't... of course if it loose all of it's previosly features, it wouldn't be the case, but since it hasn't AOS 4 is built with exec on its core so... it's the sticker! ;b

It that's your argument, then AROS is also AmigaOS, since it also has exec at it's core.

[pixie]

Past is what made me what I am, it is very important for me... what defined Amiga was Amiga it was not MOS and never will

[System]

@Pixie

His road

Jay Miner was an extraordinary visionary.  None of us doubt the contributions that he and his original team made to both computing and society as a whole.  He was one of a kind, but he was not God.  I may not be a strictly religious man, but even I know the difference here.

[TheMagicM]

Past is what made me what I am, it is very important for me... what defined Amiga was Amiga it was not MOS and never will

I once thought like this, but constant promises of a product turned me away (or screenshots of A1 booting to a CLI prompt. LOL) .  I was looking for something that is quick, and user friendly like the Amiga, but with the community support.    MOS/Pegasos was the answer for me.    

If you like the A1, then thats great, but just keep your fingers crossed that OS4 does come out for the A1.  

Maybe there will be a MOS emulator that will run on the A1  j/k

[bloodline]

Past is what made me what I am, it is very important for me... what defined Amiga was Amiga it was not MOS and never will

What you fail to understand is that everything you knew is gone.  :-o

Amiga has become nothing but a name. There is not past, no heritage. The old amiga development people have all moved on.

The Company that currently owns the Name "Amiga", have nothing to do with the Amiga's past. They have even separated themselves from it (since they don't actually own the technology, Gateway do), and what you know as an Amiga they call a "Classic Amiga".

Do not confuse Amiga Inc. with the Amiga that we knew and loved.

[yssing]

AS I see it, any one can have thier own opinion.
being BAF or BMF.
What I don't understand is, why use so much time to b.i.t.c.h on each other.

MOS is not amiga, amiga does not even seem like amiga.

So what ? Maybe it truly is time to let the old way(amiga) die.

The more I read about things like this, the more I want to leave the amiga community and stop doing anything with and for amiga.

Any way, seems only like the rigth way to choose, being as WINTEL is where I can make a living.

Not with in a small community, where people only seem to argue and backstab each other all the time.
Or maybe I am wrong.

But my personal opinion is, that MOS should stick to their own forum, not that I am not interested i MOS, I am very interested.
But simple because it makes people so darn mad.

GET ALONG !!

Some one once said, if you don't have anything nice to say, the don't say anything.

/Frederik

[JoannaK]

Bllodline: true.. and without their progress even remaining software makers had to close down. There have simply been not enough market left on those old systems..  

I can't tell about the others but In last couple days alone I have spend over 100USD to purchase/register NEW Amiga software. And why? Cause I want to use my Pega and it happens to run those quite nicely. There are many interesting softwares I'm inteding to get in upcoming monts, but need to keep my Visa in balance so it'll won't happen overnight.

If next gen Amiga (Aone) had happened as announced  I would most likely being using it by now. But at least for me there are more important things in my life than waiting it all happen.. If it happes someday and I then have bunch of extra cash, I'll consider it too..

EDIT... While writing my original comment about 30 new postings appered.. In the end..  Amiga was *NOT* some kind of religous event and should not been made as one. If some people can't see it.. well. They still do have  right to have their views.  Personally I see these talks like "Purty of Amiga" and "right kind of followers" quite disturbing..

[bloodline]

If next gen Amiga (Aone) had happened as announced I would most likely being using it by now. But at least for me there are more important things in my life than waiting it all happen.. If it happes someday and I then have bunch of extra cash, I'll consider it too..

Hmmm, me too, but I was let down time and time again... so I decided that I wanted to go Opensource, where I have (more) control.

[Lando]

So, Pixie...

A generic PPC board designed and manufactured by a bunch of guys in Asia (who have probably never even seen an Amiga in their lives let alone used one) that currently only runs Linux

is more "Amiga" than

A custom-made PPC board designed and manufactured in Germany by long-time Amiga hardware designers running an OS written by long-time expert Amiga coders that runs Amiga programs.

simply because Eyetech pays AInc $50/board to call it "Amiga"?

[Jose]

Hey, don't kill the guy ok?  8-)

[Lando]

Actually TBH I don't give a damn if I'm considered an Amiga user or not any more.  Truth is my Pegasos and MorphOS is better, faster and more stable than any of my Amigas ever were.  You don't want Genesi suppporting Amiga shows? Fine, but don't be surprised if there aren't any shows at all.  

In my opinion Genesi are better off attending large mainstream shows like CES, ECTS than these little amateur get-togethers.  They're worth more than this.

Leave future "Amiga" shows to the few dozen AInc worshippers who get hard at the sight of Linux running on a Teron board, a window being dragged about on a A4000 and a shareware-quality puzzle game on a Sharp Zaurus.  Maybe if they all club together they can afford to hire out a scout hut.