20 more Pegasos I boards now available to Phoenix members

[greenboy]

Hey Paul,

I don't know that the brunt of the extras included (and some more yet to come) was all just to make up for delays. Though the T-shirts were. Everybody involved just wants to make it a great package.

Fortunately the days of Mai's moving delivery sched delays are probably behind us and we can face new delay challenges ;  }
 
 
<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 

[Paul_Gadd]

@greenboy

Its good news people are getting goodies thrown in and its great to see people are getting their products.

Enjoy your products guys  ;-)

[amigamad]

Good to see that there are machines out there but i would not want a work in progress operating system  i would  prefer to use linux on it  and get a complete os that works  and is stable. when it is released in the same way that os4 will be , when it is complete, i dont want to be pay my money and be some sort of beta tester. Getting goodies thrown in just proves theres something not quite right .

[System]

@amigamad,

Certainly a valid choice, but you can also run Linux on the Pegasos if you choose to do so.  

I personally have ZERO use for Linux, but wouldn't mind helping to beta test AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS either one.  I am always good at finding bugs with things that others don't.

It's not as though I'd be able to do much else with either until software starts becoming available.   Well, software aside from the several games and packages that come with the Pegasos that is.

Much the same as it was when the first Amiga 1000's were released, you should remember, AmigaOS 1.0 and 1.1 were effectively betas as well.

[redrumloa]

@amigamad

You may be waiting a very long time. As far as anyone knows based on public information, OS4 still is nowhere near booting on the AmigaOne. It is now April 2003, how long are you willing to wait?

[downix]

@amigamad

Please re-read the included list.

- DebianPPC

[greenboy]

Something not quite right because a company wants to provide good value and realizes it must,  to have a growth future in a competitive marketplace? (Even for the geek niche this is surely true.)

No: things are as right as they can be, all things considered. Genesi wants to do well, and it is taking steps to make early adopters, geeks, developers happy, and to deal with setbacks constructively. And there is a certain generous spirit, I think, that informs this.
 
 
<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 

[AmiGR]

MorphOS is stable and usuable. You aren't obliged to
be any kind of betatester when buying a Pegasos.

[Coder]

I always like the clothing like t-shirts, sweaters, caps etc. Oh yeah and the coffee mugs. If Ron has all that I might pick some up in Juli when I am back in Holland/Rotterdam.

Coder

[bbrv]

Hi, just posted this on ANN (with a couple edits here):

We will have 600+ Pegasos I machines out there when this current production is fully distributed and all the exchanges have been made.  In the meanwhile, MorphOS continues to be increasingly useful.  It is stable now and it is hardly in "beta," as someone suggested.  What we are doing with this offer is continuing to entice intelligent computer-literate people to use the machine and help us to make it better.  That is the simple reason for the offer we have made.  Plus, we are tuning the infrastructure to support REAL sales to a broad market through the Internet.  We need REAL people to use the system to do that.  This applies to MorphOS too.  
   
Our focus for MorphOS today is to add functionality and improve the spectrum of applications that work well with the OS and the Pegasos platform.  All this effort accumulates and sums to the introduction of the Pegasos II and the Pegasos STB.  The Pegasos II will be a very functional, alternative PPC platform that will continue to be attractively priced.  We believe it will draw widespread interest.  It will work with more than MorphOS.  So, even if the Pegasos was purchased to run a version of Linux, BeOS, BSD or whatever, it will also come with MorphOS and MorphOS WILL be driven into the market.  Further, the STB will be a scaled down version of the Pegasos that will be well tuned to leverage small footprint of MorphOS.  
   
The development platform for the Pegasos II and the Pegasos STB is the Pegasos I.  For us this is a good basic plan and one that is being implemented today...now!  Those that want to be involved can be, those that do not want to be involved do not have to be.  Neither side needs to throw mud.  We can coexist here and in other places.  From the MorphOS and the Pegasos side we have called a truce to this fighting a couple of months ago.  We are focused on the future.  Please join us if you find the $299 "Phoenix" package a good offer...:-D
   
  Best regards,
  Raquel and Bill :-)
  Genesi

[magnetic]

Some people are never happy... Some people are very jeoulous of us that we have a working product... I am an Amiga supporter - Hyperion/Ainc. I even know some of the people. They are good people. However, Ainc's latest business practices have been a little dodgy lately... There are alot of old Amiga stalwarts that are developing for MOS platform now. The race is on..

 PS I didnt get the cool sticker either..
realize

[Kay]

No denying that is a very good deal. And another BBRV press release which doesn't FUD the upcoming Amiga products. If Genesi had done things like this from the beginning, Pegasos could have been a real option for me. For now, I still have too much bad-will towards them. But if they keep offering good deals and behaving decently and professionally, I might eventually gain some respect for them, and consider giving the new platform a shot.

Kay

[redrumloa]

Please join us if you find the $299 "Phoenix" package a good offer...

Bill please clear this up for me. The $299 offer is only for these 20 boards? Or are you taking orders(preorders?) for another run? :-?

[cdfr]

Genesi made 400 boards.
300 for resellers -> Currently selling at about 500$
100 for user groups 300$ and Genesi employees 0$.

As a member of phoenix I got the 300$ deal :-)
The problem is that very quick the 299$ deal was gone  :-o
As there was more demand from Phoenix members Genesi provided 20 more boards for Phoenix. This is what this announcement is about.

You have missed the deal once, don't miss it twice.
If you miss it you can still order from a reseller but without the 200$ Phoenix "free coupon".

[anarchic_teapot]

Rose, please mind your own business.

A most professional reply, full of stinging logic.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

Oh, I read Libération and Le canard enchaîné (UK equivalents: Guardian and Private Eye). I am aware of the prelimary enquiry currently under way into the doings of Pretory and Thendic.

Further, last time we checked Amont Informatique was not distributing the Pegasos

I like to be sure my suppliers are reliable. So far your antics have not reassured me, and your past record even less. I don't want to get caught like Carl Sassenrath or Almathera.

We have avoided threads about your hardware, please avoid ours.

Why? You're trying to sell to the same people, and you have spread FUD (that's the nice word) about the AmigaOne and the people that created it.  But I wasn't referring to the hardware (still shooting at straw men I see), I was referring to the offer that sounds too good to be true.

[downix]

Can we get back on-topic here, without the implied accusations without base?