MOS / OS4 FAQ

[System]

This list is being presented as a non-biased facts list. But actually it combines facts, with opinions and some misleading information I have pointed out. IMO there is enough available of that already.

I truly dislike the idea that people who spread misinformation around do somehow something positive for market or community.

[System]

"1.10 What can I do? "

http://aurora.merseine.nu/fudbuster/

"You can correct this FAQ by emailing the maintainer at: [ reflect at phreaker.net ] "

Funnily enough, that last part in the square brackets translates to a valid email address:  reflect @ freaker.net (obviously trying to avoid spambots..)

[DaveP]

"This list is being presented as a non-biased facts list. But actually it combines facts, with opinions and some misleading information I have pointed out. IMO there is enough available of that already."

CODSWALLOP Mike!

It sayes in the FAQ do not accept it as being unbiased NO WHERE does it say that it is THE FACTS
and others have pointed out to you flaws in your reasoning but you do not follow them up properly so why should reflect or Digby bother paying you the same level of attention?

[Kronos]

@MikeB

Sometimes I can only laugh at your post, like when you claim that
the "community" has a responsibilty for AInc's failures. Do you
really think that their investors would look on public forums ?

Oh and don't give me that 9.11/dotcom-BS, cause how would you call
a captain that can't bring his ship through stormy weather ?
And would you excuse him for loosing the ship, just because he
lacked experience ?

If AInc. fail, than they have failed because of their own mistakes
and nothing else.

About the legal-stuff:
If Ainc would have taken any action, than it would have been
against H&P (first), because they are lossing money on non-sold
copies of "Bernithlon" on a daily basis,but 6 weeks after their
deadline Amithlon_1.0 is still on sale. Actually the deadline never
made sense in the because it should have been clear by this spring
that their won't be any cooperation to the terms in the final written
contract.

[System]

> investors would look on public forums ?

They do read OSNews.com for example.

[Coder]

@Kronos

Amithlon_1.0 is still on sale

It's indeed illegal (according to Bill) but it is still for sale. Weird.

Coder

[System]

It is named "fudbuster" which in itself implies that it brings facts. Only much later into the text it says that the list may also contain inaccurate information - that should stand at the top of it.

[System]

H&P = germany based company
Amiga Inc. = usa based company

different laws = lots of work for lawyers

also there are opinions involved, since bernie claims to have invoked a clause that would negate the contract while H&P claims that clause was not or could not be invoked.

[DaveP]

Digby pointed this out as a reasonable alternative on ANN which was pretty much ignored.

The problem is that most people seem to consider their own personal opinions are "facts" and if the FAQ does not square exactly with their opinions then it is "misinformation".

FUDBUSTER implies it attempts to contain no FUD and to counter the FUD. I think it achieves that admirably.

Where do you think the innaccuracies are? Or are you talking about there being insufficient detail? Note that the FUDBUSTER contains a section which offers more information from the "horses mouth" but note that the horses themselves are prone to innaccuracies.

I dont think Digby can win... there certainly seem to be plenty of people out there willing to stick it to him.

[System]

Although personally I still would have liked to see some details changed. The current FAQ is much better, the two points that bothered me the most have changed.

1) No justfication is given anymore for spreading FUD or misinformation by extremists.

2) It doesn't state A1 boards are locked to AmigaOS4 anymore.

Goody work.

[Hammer]

Hyperion *lead* project, would be more correct.

Amiga Inc “contracted”(outsourced to) Hyperion for Amiga OS 4.x development,  would be more correct.

There's nothing wrong with the original statement.

This is very misleading as the board is not locked to AmigaOS4, but instead AmigaOS4 is "locked" to the board. It can run any other OS.

There is no reference in the original statement that refers to Amiga OS 4.x is the only OS for AmigaOne Hardware.

[Hammer]

But IMO it is NOT in Amiga Inc's interest for people to believe that the Amiga market includes criminals.

That’s a naive POV. With any "market", unsavory activities exist.  This planet has yet to reach utopian level status.

[DaveP]

"1) No justfication is given anymore for spreading FUD or misinformation by extremists."
Bollocks Mike. It still sayes the same thing it was just reworded to
force those that did not read it properly to actually understand what
it sayes. It never justified it in the first place.