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Offline d0pefish

MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« on: September 26, 2006, 10:42:19 PM »
...with several upgrades, and under MorphOS PowerUP of course. :)

This is a near-vanilla installation of MorphOS PowerUP running on the CyberStorm, and with the latest versions of MorphOS SDL and OS4Emu.

The machine:

All set up
Under the bonnet

Specs:
Occupying the Zorro slots
* Compserv Scandoubler II (AGA compatible with S-VIDEO and composite out too!)
* Algor Pro (USB and flash card; custom Kickstart loaded with Piru's Exec, 3.9 patches and lots more)
* X-Surf Mark III
* ...plus 16MB RAM on the motherboard.

In the centre:
* Fujitsu 36GB SCSI-UltraWide hard disk drive (The Maxtor died :cry:)
* CyberStorm PPC 604e/233 + 060/50, with 128MB 60ns RAM
* CyberVision PPC
* Samsung DVD-ROM and high-density floppy drive.

[size=18]Here's the video! :-D[/size]

Sorry for the poor quality, I was in a rush, and pay no attention to my horrible accent.

There you go! And it also serves as a nice punch in the face to these people with 1GHz G4 Pegasos machines complaining that it's slow. :pissed:  :madashell:  
 

Offline spihunter

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 10:52:33 PM »
Thats awesome man!!!. It runs pretty snappy. faster then I thought it would.


BTW, get a tripod! :lol:
 

Offline d0pefish

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 11:06:12 PM »
Thanks! :-D

Yeah, a tripod is on the shopping list - my old one broke. :cry:
 

Offline Bazzaq

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 11:07:14 PM »
Hi.. nice video.. few questions.. i assume morphos is dual boot on your sys.. do you install to seperate drive or partition??

When you register the powerup version do you pay or is it free??

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 11:52:03 PM »
first, your accent is NOT "horrible". just be glad you don'yt have my Neuw Yawk accent.  :-D

anyway, that's quite interesting what we can do with our Amiga "toy", isn't it?
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Offline d0pefish

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 11:52:40 PM »
@Bazzaq:

Thanks! :-)

Yes, it;s dual boot. I can choose to boot it with the two-mousebuttons menu (Early Startup Control).

It's on a partition of my SCSI hard disk (DH1:).

You register free of charge when you get MorphOS up and running, but you must have your Amiga connected online. There is a tool which you run, and it gives you a form to fill out. Once done your application gets sent and a keyfile gets sent by email a few days later at the most.

@cecilia:

:oops: Thanks. :-) Hehe, I just thought I might sound really weird to you guys over the water, especially since I didnt really notice what I was saying during recording, which didnt help.

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Offline ferrellsl

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 01:09:55 AM »
That's awesome news.  Anybody know if it runs this well on a PegII as well?  I sure hope so.

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2006, 01:34:12 AM »
Very impressive, have to really re-think my system now.
That is a lot of overhead to get to a PPC tracker though.

Must have Amiga OS 4 emulation?

I thought it looked familiar - DOS Fast Tracker2 is the only PC tracker that ever worked worth a damn. Have it running on my old laptop, from DOS.


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Offline d0pefish

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2006, 01:51:51 AM »
Yeah. It was mainly intended as an experiment to see if it would work at all, but it works better than I thought.

MilkyTracker is almost fully SDL, and since MOS has native SDL, I dont think there's as much overhead as not much is really being emulated. I think OS4Emu just allows the binary to start up and then it gets handed over to MorphOS' SDL libraries.

It's like tracking has come full circle - starting on Amiga, being enhanced over all the years over various platforms, and now it's been brought home again. :-)
 

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 01:59:50 AM »
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I think OS4Emu just allows the binary to start up and then it gets handed over to MorphOS' SDL libraries.


Yes, this is how OS4Emu works, sort of. It really is like Wine on x86 linux, it doesn't actually "emulate" anything (as in CPU emulation). Basically OS4Emu is just bunch of wrappers to redirect OS4 library calls to MorphOS native functions. Since there is no CPU emulation involved, the speed is equal to OS4 itself on similar hardware.

If you run OS4Emu on 1GHz PegII, it's actually faster than any stock "AmigaOne" ;-)

Nice video, btw.

[EDIT] However, in this case I think OS4 SDL library is a statically linked one, meaning that the SDL calls won't be translated to MorphOS SDL calls. The translation happens at lower level. The end result is the same, though. [/EDIT]
 

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 02:13:00 AM »
Thanks guys, I'm way behind for once, rather than my PPC Amiga - cool.

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Offline jmbattle

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2006, 02:37:24 AM »
Nout wrong with the accent mate ;)

I'm guess you are from somewhere up north, perhaps a posher part of Sunderland?

Well, congrats for getting evertything running - MorphOS certainly appears to be rather nippy, even on classic hardware.

I assume the same would be possible on a BPPC-powered a1200?

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 09:02:05 AM »
@Piru:

Thanks for the explanation - I had a feeling it would e something like that. :-)


@jmbattle:

I'm up in Newcastle - so you were nearly right. :-) My parents were from Sunderland, but I was born in Northumberland, so my accent is a bit of a mish-mash. :crazy:  :crazy:
 

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Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2006, 09:35:56 AM »
@d0pefish

Hmm, the OS4Emu is by Ilkka "iti" Lehtoranta, not "French Amiga Group".

Well, I doubt he minds really... :-)
 

Offline X-ray

Re: MilkyTracker running on a classic Amiga 4000
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2006, 01:41:39 PM »
I feel the urge to get a Cybervision PPC...

...but I'm not wild about having to put my Miggy online.