"http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??

[Kin-Hell]

RE Above post.......

Yeah, but Authors CAN enforce who CAN host their software for download which then is part of the copyright. Whilst we do not know who the PITA was, it would be obvious the PITA had some sort of copyright leaning towards this.
There was no other reason for Ian to host that file, other than to provide it for people who would NEED it for their Hardware. I'm sure the Author has every right to be a PITA if his copyright is Legit.
None the less, seeing Amiga-Hardware.com dissapear for this is very disturbing & I hope Ian can resolve it's absence sooner than later.
Perhaps a good time to Incude a "Disclaimer" :idea: on Amiga-Hardware's Home Page, just to cover your Ass & the Amiga Comunity that loves your site so much.
Best of luck with it all Ian. :-)

[Kin-Hell]

It had to happen didnt it!

http://amiga.resource.cx/ is DOWN!

ffs! :roll:

[Effy]

The two biggest hardware boards down. Anybody got a perfect backup of the AmigaHardwareDatabase that is less than a year old  :-?

[Lex]

I have the whole site backed up.
Probably the hard disk has died, we'll see it tomorrow.

[Argus]

@motrucker

Yes, you are right there is no world government...I was speaking as to how business is done internationally; something that is getting better and better for copyright holders.  US or, for that matter, EU country copyright law has a very long reach indeed.  The copyright holder can sue even international defendants in US court (there are suits pending against many Chinese companies for this very thing for knockoff software and music).  A foreigner can't hide behind lack of a treaty to prevent a judgment in US court, even if you live in some hostile country like Iran (which has little or no diplomatic relations with the US).  Think of the 9-11 plaintiff's wrongful death suits against Osama bin Laden.  Where is he?...well he's not exactly going to show up in a US court.

Good luck collecting you say?  If the violator doesn't appear in court, a default judgment is entered and even if the plaintiff can't collect right now, the pirate had better stay away from all US ports and countries *with* treaties to enforce valid judgments (e.g. bank accounts, assets).  Think it doesn't matter?...Just take a look at all those Iranian assets still frozen since 1979.

[motrucker]

Argus wrote:
Good luck collecting you say?  If the violator doesn't appear in court, a default judgment is entered and even if the plaintiff can't collect right now, the pirate had better stay away from all US ports and countries *with* treaties to enforce valid judgments (e.g. bank accounts, assets).  Think it doesn't matter?...Just take a look at all those Iranian assets still frozen since 1979.

But how many Chinese assests have been frozen since their pirating started enmass? All of this gets off the point however.
My main point was simply how long a copyright holder has power over his work. I still think more than one piece of software (ie drivers in this case) is better in many ways.
I would rather write the driver myself, than tilt lances at the copyright laws.......

And if everyone thinks this isn't problem, wait until Bill Gate starts defending all of the patents he has bought up on computer hard & software! Some of them may well be Amiga related.

[Argus]

motrucker wrote:
But how many Chinese assests have been frozen since their pirating started enmass?

The Cuban government has been asking the same question for years.  They want to sell us a few lousy cigars and sugar cane but the US won't hear of it because they're Communist....while China pirates US products with abandon and gets most favored nation status....all the while building bigger armaments and ICBMs..politics is all it is, plain and simple.  China is big but we're told not a threat, Cuba is small but is.  Iran threatens openly to blow up Israel and is making nukes to do just that, but we have the US 3rd Infantry Division busy tied up 'winning hearts and minds' in Baghdad....go figure

[dnelsonfl]

I think the web archive waybackmachine might have most of the site archived here.

-David

[boing]

Why the bleep is Ian worried about the asshole complainant getting flamed?  The world has a right to know who is se damned petty as to do something like this.  Why should Ian want to protect him?  Is Ian this spineless, or is there something else going on here?


Do you think it has to do with TCP/IP or SCSI stuff?


Has anybody contacted whomever runs the other site to see why it's down?

[Dingo_aus]

I'm really missing it, the snapshots aren't any good, no images etc.

Good to see some lamer is guarding his/her huge revenue stream from drivers for 10+ year old hardware by shutting down a site for the community. pfft!

[_ThEcRoW]

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