New (?) Mini mac pics

[Hammer]

Yes you could build your own PC, and you will, but millions won't.

$495.82 USD (without GST) pre-built (with OS) via national level PC vendor (e.g. pluscorp.com.au). This is with AMD Sempr0n 2800+ (@2.0Ghz), ASrock K7S-41GX, PC3200 256MB, 40GB HD, combo DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive, ATX case and PSU.

PS; Mac-Mini cost $611.591 USD in Oz.  

Apple has a long time reputation for quality products

They have  their own hiccups. Refer to http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17981

[Hammer]

How much more will you need to actually get that 470$ PC to equal AppleWorks suite plus iLife; iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD, iTunes, Garage Band?

Already matched it with American HP's SR1000Z series.  

Plus you would be stuck with Windows

Actually, there are campers who likes Windows NT architecture e.g. ReactOS campers.

[Hammer]

1337DOG wrote:

Would you get Zero config networking (including wireless)?

Refer to "Universal PnP".
 

 A good bluetooth implementation?

Define good. PS, Bluetooth implementation was updated in Windows XP SP2.

System Security?

For new vs new, refer to Windows XP SP2 OEM-RTM.

[Hammer]

AppleWorks is a world ahead of MS Works

Since this PC vendor vs PC vendor i.e. factor in HP's "MS Works Suite 2005" (includes MS Word 2002).

Microsoft Works Suite 2005
_MS Word 2002
_MS Encarta Encylopedia Standard 2005
_MS Works 8.0 which includes Spreadsheet, Database, _Calender, Address Book
_MS Money
_MS Photo Premium 10
_Microsoft AutoRoute 2005

HP's add-ons(HP's SR1000Z series)
_Apple iTunes
_RealPlayer
_InterVideo® WinDVD® 5 player (in models with DVD drive)
_Intervideo® WinDVD Creator (in models with DVD writers)
_RecordNow (in models with CD writers or DVD writers)
_Intuit Quicken New User's Edition 2005
_Adobe® Acrobat Reader 6.0
_Adobe® Photoshop Album STE
_Adobe® Photoshop Album Starter Edition
_Compaq Organize
_Microsoft® Software Jukebox
_WildTangent GameChannel

Config shop to match Mac-mini target with
_MS Windows XP Pro SP2
_AMD Sempr0n 3000+ @ 2.0Ghz
_256MB DDR PC2700
_40 GB UDMA HD
_CD-RW/DRD-ROM Combo (48x32x16x48x)
_9 in 1 Card Reader, 3 USB, + Front Audio Ports (can't deselect)
_Compaq Keyboard & Scroller Mouse (can't deselect)
_Microsoft(R) Works Suite 2005 includes Word 2002

I/O ports
_USB 2.0: Six (2 front and 4 back)
_FireWire (IEEE 1394): Two (1 front and 1 back)
_Headphone: One (front)
_Microphone: Two (1 front and 1 back)*
_Line in: Two (one front, one back)* Parallel: One (back)
_Serial: One (back)
_PS/2 Keyboard: One (back)
_PS/2 Mouse: One (back)
_VGA: One (back)**
_Line-out : One (back)*

Results: USD $479.99

In terms of general performance, AMD Sempr0n 3000+ pretty much kills its Intel Celeron counterpart.

AMD vs Intel PC desktop market share refer to
http://www.itfacts.biz/index.php?id=P1534

[Hammer]

1337DOG wrote:
@Hammer

Refer to "Universal PnP".

Is that the message Windows gives you when you try to connect to a wireless network the first time? :-D

UPnP supports zero-configuration networking and automatic discovery.

[Hammer]

But does it "Just Work"? Have you tried it?

With an UPnP capable 4 port ADSL NAT router and 4 UPnP capable PCs. Refer to http://www.upnp.org/
UPNP initiative has been with us since the middle of 1999.

Also refer to;
1. http://presslink.dlink.com/pr/?prid=151
2. Purpose for Intel's Centrino PR.

[Hammer]

Many Windows users are looking for greener pastures and Mac OS X is a delight. Many just want to hook thier relatives up with something that won't require so many tech support calls. I've been checking many PC Tech boards for reaction on this. The response is often "no more recommending Dell".

MacOS X has its fare share of *issues* i.e. refer to http://www.macfixitforums.com/

[Hammer]

HopperJF wrote:

Hammer wrote:

Many Windows users are looking for greener pastures and Mac OS X is a delight. Many just want to hook thier relatives up with something that won't require so many tech support calls. I've been checking many PC Tech boards for reaction on this. The response is often "no more recommending Dell".

MacOS X has its fare share of *issues* i.e. refer to http://www.macfixitforums.com/

We never denied that Hammer, but why not approach the computer with an open mind rather than a "defend x86, destroy Mac" attitude?

Notice the context in the targeted quote.  

[Hammer]

the_leander wrote:

As with many things, if Amiga are to re enter into the mass market they are going to have to offer the things people have come to expect, if it is to go into a niche as I suspect it will, then it has to be on at least an equal footing with the competition, with the arrival of the mini mac, the microA1 looks decidedly underpowered and overpriced...  

Well, Apple's Mac-Mini is manufactured by Foxconn (refer to Leadtek and Winfast brands)....    

[Hammer]

bloodline wrote:

Dan wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Dan wrote:
First mac-user lesson don´t buy it from apple unless you have to! :-D

Don't say that!!! Then no one would buy a Mac!!!

Many people want Mac just not an Apple Mac, that´s why Jobs killed the clones. Mac gained marketshare like crazy back then but Apple lost.
Apple would have been in a much better position without Jobs.

I have to disagree... Apple would be gone if it were not for Jobs. The Mac Cone makers probably would have developed cheaper/better compatible PPC hardware and BeOS would have ruled a very active PPC market.

The PPC market would have turned into another PC market, then M$ would have brought out Window98 PPC... and that would be the end of the story :-D

Aside from Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 and Windows CE 2.X PowerPC edition, SoftWindows 95 would be closest to the real Microsoft Windows 95 PowerPC Edition since this product was licensed from Microsoft’s Windows 95 sourced code.

[Hammer]

Bear in mind more and more PC magazines are recommending Apple displays for use on PCs.

Keep in mind that Apple doesn’t build their TFT displays e.g. Apple's Studio Display LM151X3 (B3AP) is powered by 'LG.Philips' LCD alliance.