Restoring original Amiga disks?

[justinr12]

Here's a seperate situation I have.  I have an original NTSC version of "Ikari Warriors" by Elite for the A500, as well as a boxed copy of "Rainbow Islands".  It would seem that if I insert either disk into the floppy drive, they list as 'DF0:NDOS'.  When I tried to use my ReloKick disk to softkick into 1.3 to load them, the screen fades out from gray to black with no response.  I got the same results making ADFs of the disk and trying them in WinUAE.  Is there any that I can get the two games restored somehow?

[amigagr]

you can try first to clean the floppy drive with a floppy cleaner. sometimes helps a lot.

[justinr12]

Unfortunately I don't have one of those.

[Boogiegail]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8731608926

You can find some by searching - Floppy Cleaning

[orange]

First check to see if they are protected. Use X-Copy, D-Copy or similar and also try with external floppy with lots of retries set. I'd also inspect the media for physical damage, like scratches..
If all fails, you could contact the guys at SPS or CAPS or whatever to help you out with original. Don't throw them away, maybe some day they could be used decoratively  :-)

PS. You could connect brand new PC floppy drive as Amiga 880K, (with some modifications) maybe it would have better luck reading the diskettes..

[maffoo]

You can also make your own, if you happen to have some isopropyl alcohol to hand. I got mine out of a CD cleaning kit.

You need to get a floppy disk that you don't need, and take out the actual disk. Then get a sheet of paper and cut out a circle the same size as the disk (with a hole in the middle for that metal bit from the centre of the disc to go through.) You might need to use two paper discs.

Put the casing back together with the paper disc in it, pull back the metal cover thing (assuming it survived you taking the disk apart) and spray some of the alcohol on the exposed paper (both sides, to be sure.) Put the disk in the drive and it should hopefully clean the heads.

I came across this on a website (can't remember the address.) I had an ancient Powerbook and I needed to reinstall the OS but the floppy drive wasn't working, it was too late at night to get a drive cleaner so I tried this method and it worked  :-)

(I should point out that this is best used as a last resort if you are certain it's the drive and not the disks, I wouldn't want you to kill a fully-working drive using this method!)

[justinr12]

Well, thing is I've tried to use utilities to connect the 1200 to my PC through a null-modem cable.  When I try to copy the disk directly to a PC it gives me "Error reading track".

[orange]

That error might be caused by copy protection. Use WHDLoad to make game playable from WinUAE.

[justinr12]

Tried that with Ikari Warriors.  WHDload gave errors of a bad disk images.

[weirdami]

Whenever I see NDOS, I try seeing if the disk works on bootup. Some games don't do workbench. You have to put the disk in and reboot. Try that first.

[justinr12]

And again, when I used ReloKick to try and boot the games, the screen goes from grey to a fadeout from white with no response.

[CLS2086]

Hi,
so you don't have well configured Relokick, because you must see the white screen with the Hand asking for WB1.3
The games you want to play are OCS and maybe compatible with ECS chipset but not with AGA.
Disable CPU cache and set to Original Chipset, boot without extension, ... and pry or get a cheap A500.

[justinr12]

Nope, still the same thing.  Also, both working disks for Pac-Mania still show garbled graphics (I'm guessing something on the board itself is damaged).  Doing this in WinUAE doesn't give me that same problem.