Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II

[Jupp3]

Well, I was much more disappointed with Freespace...

Crashes constantly, during missions...

Didn't even bother buying their Quake 2 port
(Well, previous experience was so disappointing...)

And in any case, I rather use MorphOS native port of Quake 2

(Haven't tried Freespace on my Pegasos yet, will do so, when I have
enough patience... Hope it does better than on my A1200)

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HyperionMP:

Sorry about expressing my personal opinion, which I am obviously not
allowed to have...

Well, I admit, haven't tried newest (quite recently released) update
on my A1200 too much... (Well, some time ago, some weird hardware
problem has been restricting its use, wouldn't use it much anyway,
hasn't been turned on within a month...)

I just got too bored trying to get previous version working... And
believe me, many time, I thought, that "Ah, now it works!" -untill it
crashed, yet again...

(And why bother, it's far too slow on my A1200 to be playable anyway)

Haven't tried it too much on Pegasos yet, haven't got it working yet
too well but that's might be due to settings...

But anyway, forgot what I wrote above - That's opinion, I, as legal
customer, am not allowed to have...

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Mikey_C:

I don't really care anymore, if it works on my A1200 or not, as I
said,"It's too slow anyway"

So, more important would be to get it working on my Pegasos now...

Please note, as I said at the end of my last post:

I haven't much tried it on my Pegasos.

Okay, if you absolutely want to know, it does NOT work...

BUT as I said, that might well becouse of settings...

And becouse of that, I'm not making "public announcement" about it, at
least not before I've tried it a bit more...

At least Heretic II (with new update) works quite fine, so "there is
hope" :-)

As a Pegasos owner, I'm not allowed to have negative feelings about
competitors, yeah, lots of people have been saying that...

But there are reasons, why I'm using competiting products in the first
place...

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But about thread topic...
Even IF the game was sent from Hyperion missing PC version, I dare
say, that reseller should have checked it before selling it forward...

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AmiGR:

Sorry, I forgot...

Of course, I should buy Hyperion version to see, if it's any better
than free one!

And about having tried that, I really haven't played much... It's just
sooo boring...

(As 3D FPS shooters usually are)

Yeah... Every Linux user should buy Microsoft Windows XP to see, if
it's any better...

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lempkee:

>alot of b.s in this thread now!

/me agrees on that

>and as all know, the mos port was done after the amiga port (hyperion)

Are you saying, that if person A ports GPL game to platform A,
person B may not port same game to platform B?

>typical ..hey let them do the dirty work and we just take the amigasource and port it....

Ah, serious claim... But luckily you're here to provide proof for it?

(And even if it was true, there would be NOTHING illegal...)

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lempkee:

I did a bit of research on the matter...

-On Aminet, Quake 2 (Hyperion port) source's age is 31

-MorphOS version of Quake 2 was demonstrated on Pegasos machines in
Aachen show early december last year.
(There should be pictures of that available, if you bother to search)

(You should be able to do some "simple maths" with those numbers)

(I got the info from author of MOS port and AmiNet)

After the MOS port will be released to public, you can study and
compare the 2 (different, I'd say) Quake 2 sources for yourself, and
hey, don't forget possibility to port it to AmigaOS! :-)

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>wrong , i beta tested quake 2 at this time last year, if not even
>longer ago.

Umm, what exactly is wrong? It seems you're refering to some claim, I
didn't make...

>it was released in november 2002 at woase. (quake2 by hyperion)

Guess, that's true :-)

>the source code was released the same day under gpl

...But that's not.

Sources were NOT distributed with Quake 2, and neither were they
freely available somewhere...

iirc, you needed to have binary of Hyperions' port (bought or not) and
only then you could request the sources...

Eventually, someone did that, and uploaded them to AmiNet
(as I said before)



>anyway if what you are saying, then kewl ...mos people can do ports
>in less than 4 weeks time...

Well, I did NOT say that... IF you do some maths with first public
Quake 2 MOS version demonstration and day, Hyperions' sources were
made available, you'll end up with NEGATIVE number

(But I guess that just proves, MOS developers are even faster? :-) )

>i SeriOUSLy hope they port more now as that will then make me very
>happy, descent 2 , descent 3 , descent freespace 2 ..all is open for
>porting. duke nukem 3d also , racer is another one...

Yep, of course, if any of those games will get ported to any platform,
and results are made public, you're absolutely free to request their
source codes...


>also , if what you are saying...is correct, then quake 2 mos is
>illegal , AS when the game is out under a gpl liscense , THE SOURCES
>should be out te same minute, i will go and request em NOW!...

Eh...?

It is publicly known (And also mentioned in this thread) that beta
version of Hyperion's Quake 2 port was leaked during development
(Just like with MOS port now)

BUT did Hyperion provide sources immediately after that leak?

I dare doubt that...