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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #74 from previous page: March 15, 2014, 08:16:06 PM »
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They must be getting these devices at a really low cost, which really highlights their extreme mark up.
Limited production numbers can only excuse so much.


Acube do not have a massive mark-up at all... component costs are only a small part of the production costs of boards like this

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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2014, 09:28:41 PM »
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Acube do not have a massive mark-up at all... component costs are only a small part of the production costs of boards like this

It's been a very long time since anyone got rich off the Amiga, unfortunately

Then at the volumes produced, Acube can't be earning much at all.
On gets the impression that A-eon and Acube do boards in really low volume (50 or so per run?).
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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2014, 10:58:53 PM »
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Does Acube use a plan?
They seem devoted to using processors from one company who's product line is remarkably unimpressive.


To Amiga/desktop user it is. My Mac Mini runs circles around it.

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They must be getting these devices at a really low cost, which really highlights their extreme mark up.


Maybe. Or maybe they have found a customer that just need it. There is UMTS/GSM module what certainly is not designed to Amiga market.
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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2014, 11:29:20 PM »
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Or maybe they have found a customer that just need it. There is UMTS/GSM module what certainly is not designed to Amiga market.

Makes sense to me, an embedded application that would use a SAM in some kind of mobile application..

I'll stick with my G5s.
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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2014, 12:14:04 PM »
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To Amiga/desktop user it is. My Mac Mini runs circles around it.

My PS3 slim runs circles around my lap PC, X1000 and MacMinis alltogether. Even just with 256MB RAM.

Point is mass produced items cant really compete to hobby produced boards in pricing at least. And MacMinis have their own limits. At least in AmigaOS 4 world well equipped SAM 440 is still enough. And gives less headaches then SAM460ex and X1000.

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Maybe. Or maybe they have found a customer that just need it. There is UMTS/GSM module what certainly is not designed to Amiga market.

That would mean some good heavy Linux support I have missed. Or some OS I am not aware of. There is no option to buy board without OS and Acube website.
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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2014, 03:51:44 PM »
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There is UMTS/GSM module what certainly is not designed to Amiga market.
That would mean some good heavy Linux support I have missed. Or some OS I am not aware of.

Customers using it are probably going to write their own drivers. These kind of embedded things run software you cant buy from online stores.

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There is no option to buy board without OS and Acube website.

I am sure possible industrial customers can buy boards without OS4.
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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2014, 03:32:12 AM »
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Then at the volumes produced, Acube can't be earning much at all.
On gets the impression that A-eon and Acube do boards in really low volume (50 or so per run?).


I read somewhere that the lowest volume Acube will do is about 50 unit though I have no idea how many are in typical run.  I beleive that if some placed a minimum order they would still produce the original Sam440ep ITX version.
Various comment from Trevor suggest the lowest A-EON have done is about 100 or so.

So yes small numbers.
 

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Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2014, 02:10:55 PM »
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I read somewhere that the lowest volume Acube will do is about 50 unit though I have no idea how many are in typical run.  I beleive that if some placed a minimum order they would still produce the original Sam440ep ITX version.
Various comment from Trevor suggest the lowest A-EON have done is about 100 or so.

So yes small numbers
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And thus their pricing IS forgivable.
They are an asset to the community.
And I think Trevor is just enjoying the hell out of his work.
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