Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS

[danwood]

It's beginning to look like Unix everywhere, Mac OS, Android, iOS, RIM's Play thing tablet.  What an exciting time.

Well, everywhere if you don't count the 90% of computers in the world that run Windows I suppose.

[TheBilgeRat]

 I have a feeling what is released on the C64x will be slightly modified Ubunto vs heavily modified Ubunto.

Firstly, its Ubuntu (only one vowel in there, no need to add in extras), and secondly, there is no such thing as a "heavily modified" Ubuntu.  It will be ubuntu, drawing from ubuntu or medibuntu repos, and perhaps if BillyBob can afford serverspace somewhere, a "cawmmehDourOHS" repo that hosts their "Heavily Modified" Gnome DE.

As for writing their own monolithic or microkernel from scratch to beta testing in a year?  OH!  and all of the software (Windowing environments, device drivers - and good luck getting Nvidia/Intel/ATI to release the full HW specs so you can write your own!) that runs on top of it?  Yeah.  Gonna happen. :lol:

[vox]

Firstly, its Ubuntu (only one vowel in there, no need to add in extras), and secondly, there is no such thing as a "heavily modified" Ubuntu.  It will be ubuntu, drawing from ubuntu or medibuntu repos, and perhaps if BillyBob can afford serverspace somewhere, a "cawmmehDourOHS" repo that hosts their "Heavily Modified" Gnome DE.

As for writing their own monolithic or microkernel from scratch to beta testing in a year?  OH!  and all of the software (Windowing environments, device drivers - and good luck getting Nvidia/Intel/ATI to release the full HW specs so you can write your own!) that runs on top of it?  Yeah.  Gonna happen. :lol:

After deciding to skin Ubuntu, what do they a whole year?
That does that means Commodore USA Amigas will be avail in 2012?

[persia]

And of course Ubuntu itself will always be debian at it's heart.  Linux legacies are long and strong.

Firstly, its Ubuntu (only one vowel in there, no need to add in extras), and secondly, there is no such thing as a "heavily modified" Ubuntu.  It will be ubuntu, drawing from ubuntu or medibuntu repos, and perhaps if BillyBob can afford serverspace somewhere, a "cawmmehDourOHS" repo that hosts their "Heavily Modified" Gnome DE.

As for writing their own monolithic or microkernel from scratch to beta testing in a year?  OH!  and all of the software (Windowing environments, device drivers - and good luck getting Nvidia/Intel/ATI to release the full HW specs so you can write your own!) that runs on top of it?  Yeah.  Gonna happen. :lol:

[dammy]

As for writing their own monolithic or microkernel from scratch to beta testing in a year?  OH!  and all of the software (Windowing environments, device drivers - and good luck getting Nvidia/Intel/ATI to release the full HW specs so you can write your own!) that runs on top of it?  Yeah.  Gonna happen. :lol:

I never said they were going to write their own kernel, did I?   If Apple didn't with their Billions in the bank, why would C=USA?  Apple leveraged a lot of existing FOSS, and C=USA will more then likely follow suit as well, if not more so then what Apple did.

[dammy]

After deciding to skin Ubuntu, what do they a whole year?
That does that means Commodore USA Amigas will be avail in 2012?

Far sooner, initially with Ubuntu or some tweak of it.

[haywirepc]

At this point, I'm pretty sure it will be ubuntu with a commodore wallpaper.
 
Somehow, I'm not feeling very confident that they can accomplish anything other than renaming existing products.
 
Steven

[dammy]

At this point, I'm pretty sure it will be ubuntu with a commodore wallpaper.
 
Somehow, I'm not feeling very confident that they can accomplish anything other than renaming existing products.
 
Steven

I would say that is a fairly safe bet.  Considering support logistics of the end users (live phone support) with a fast startup, the support site has to be well trained prior to launch.  Now a fully customized OS, support manuals can be written as the OS is coded and or modified but that all takes a significant amount of time to achieve.  Both in code and support being developed.  Even more so if C=USA goes with their own support center, logistic demands increase rapidly.

[vox]

Far sooner, initially with Ubuntu or some tweak of it.

Ubuntu CommodoOS! Welcome 2011
Linux based OS with Amiga emulation

Now what and how accurate emulation?

[EDanaII]

I would say that is a fairly safe bet.  Considering support logistics of the end users (live phone support) with a fast startup, the support site has to be well trained prior to launch.  Now a fully customized OS, support manuals can be written as the OS is coded and or modified but that all takes a significant amount of time to achieve.  Both in code and support being developed.  Even more so if C=USA goes with their own support center, logistic demands increase rapidly.

Once Linux is in place, Linux is all it will be. And Linux does not an Amiga make.

My humble opinion, of course.

[Iggy]

Well, everywhere if you don't count the 90% of computers in the world that run Windows I suppose.

The NT kernel isn't that far removed from those products.

[persia]

I think he's saying they want to be another Apple, with their own app store and legions of mom & pop coders.  Or maybe he just watched Steve's presentation and is confused.

Once Linux is in place, Linux is all it will be. And Linux does not an Amiga make.

My humble opinion, of course.

[dammy]

Once Linux is in place, Linux is all it will be. And Linux does not an Amiga make.

My humble opinion, of course.

IMO, C=USA will not be able to make significant money buy selling Amigas with Linux.  It needs a custom OS that will be different.  C64x can be done with Linux, the OS is not the main draw but the retro games it plays will be it's main sell point.

[nicholas]

IMO, C=USA will not be able to make significant money buy selling Amigas with Linux.  It needs a custom OS that will be different.  C64x can be done with Linux, the OS is not the main draw but the retro games it plays will be it's main sell point.

So which publishers have they licenced games from?

Or are they still encouraging people to download pirated D64 images?

[Daedalus]

IMO, C=USA will not be able to make significant money buy selling Amigas with Linux.  It needs a custom OS that will be different.

See, this is the bit I still don't understand. A new, custom OS is great, it means it might actually be Amiga-like in the same way that AROS is... But what software will it run? If it's not based on Linux or something similar, how will it run OpenOffice, Firefox or any of the creativity software the new "Amiga" is supposed to be created for? Or is the CUSA development team going to develop the whole OS *and* port all these huge apps and all their dependencies? If they don't port the apps it'll be in a worse state than AROS is for launch. And that's not going to make them significant money either.

Look at Haiku: Several years in the making, it's only at Alpha 2 release, it has an out-of-date browser which has just been replaced by a newer, sometimes unstable one, and an unusably unstable office suite. I know it's largely a volunteers project, but do CUSA really have the developers to pull that off?

[Daedalus]

So which publishers have they licenced games from?

Or are they still encouraging people to download pirated D64 images?

Looks like they've changed the wording on the website so they no longer officially condone piracy... Maybe we should charge them for all the consultancy and legal advice these forums provide them