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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #59 on: May 08, 2007, 07:39:59 PM »
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But would be very interesting to see some dates. Maybe year of the first announcement and year when developer last reported about the hw or the project was officially closed?

Something like that is available at amigahistory.co.uk (partial timeline)
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2007, 07:46:13 PM »
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2007, 07:58:25 PM »
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Yeah, there's too much vapourware add-ons... or maybe separate list for them :)

But would be very interesting to see some dates. Maybe year of the first announcement and year when developer last reported about the hw or the project was officially closed?


Well, then we can put, the opalvision modules, the AteoBus soundcard, the Picasso IV mpeg decoder and PowerPC module, and others.......but i don´t know the names nor the dates
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2007, 08:00:15 PM »
The Amiga TARDIS never materialized either  :-D
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2007, 08:48:36 PM »
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redrumloa wrote:

Nice! I forgot those 2! Added! I don't think I can add mystery device, it has no name :-?


Well, that's IBM's 'vapor;' another reference design that was never widely adopted in the visible market, like POP or CHRP (or AMD's equally nice little Alchemy MIPS PDA that went nowhere visible).

The line item would be something like "IBM 405LP 'e-LAP' reference design derived PDAs."  For all we know it did run but IBM never got anyone to buy in.

Also, wasn't it the Commodore 2200 that was dead, and the Computer Answers(?), Canadian-'built' 2200 did see light as a very limited run from surplus parts?  Maybe I just 'want to believe' in that one, they sure advertised it for months and months...
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2007, 08:55:30 PM »
It's crushing looking at the list. I wanted some of the stuff in there so bad!

Three things I really wanted:

BlizzardG4
AmiJoeG3 (principally once it was clear the BlizzardG4 was vapour)
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2007, 09:14:14 PM »
DKB Talon (Zorro gfx, similar to EGS 28/24)
DKB Inferno (gfx addon for Wildfire)
GVP A4098 (Zorro III SCSI)
Sunrize DD-524 (optical I/O for AD-516)
M.A.S.T Infinity Machine (expansion box for A500 with 030)
BSC MemoryMaster 1230 (amiga.resource.cx/photos/memorymaster1230)
BSC TurboMaster 3050 (similar to Blizzard 4030)
Eureka Afterburner (similar to Blizzard 4030)
Harms TurboJet 4000 (similar to Blizzard 4030)
Harms TurboJet 5000 (040 for A4000)
Supra had announced a 040 board for the A3000 in 1990, no name
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2007, 09:14:18 PM »
The A3000+ was an A3000 with AGA chipset plus DSP, the AA3000 was a supposedly cheaper design (IDE instead of SCSI, no DSP, no onboard CPU) and finally became the A4000 - I would not regard those two as vapour since they were prototypes/developer machines.

What's definitely missing: when it became aparent that AGA would surface, C= announced a Z III AGA upgrade card for the A3000/T to save those machines from starving on the shelves - obvious vapour!
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2007, 09:29:57 PM »
I'm not sure this list is entirely fair. Granted, everything on it has never been publicly released, but I think there's a big difference between something that was merely announced and something that was actually prototyped and functional but never made it to mass production.

There are a lot of things that can go wrong in bringing a product to market and actually designing and producing a few units is 9/10ths of the work and the hardest part of the job. To call those projects pure vapor is an insult to the engineers who worked on them.

Thus, I think there should be a difference between vapor announcements and products that never quite made it to market (IE, prototypes exist).

Also, many of those items, especially some of the Commodore ones (CD32 030 board, 2631) were never even announed - they were internal engineering projects that got canned due to bankruptcy and idiot management well before the public was supposed to know about them.
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2007, 09:47:58 PM »
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something that was merely announced and something that was actually prototyped and functional


Agreed. And in most cases we cannot be sure if a "merely announced" hardware had no actual prototype behind it. The "giant list of unreleased Amiga hardware" would be better describing the collection.

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2007, 09:55:19 PM »
Geeeez louise! What a list!! :-o
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2007, 10:00:02 PM »
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"giant list of unreleased Amiga hardware"

I like that idea.








And why is the TeronPX/AmigaOne on this list? I own one, so I'm pretty sure it exists.
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2007, 10:09:51 PM »
UltraBus USB Zorro Card by Creative Development (www.credev.com, seems to be "offline" by now).
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2007, 10:34:21 PM »
:-o So many gadgets!

I wonder how much poignant feeling that adds up to when you think of the number of users that waited for each one :-(
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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2007, 11:34:08 PM »
what all 4 of them. LOL, very sad.  The problem with amiga has ALWAYS been a soft market.  I remember dealers and game publishers complaining about the lack of market.  Wired as it sounds I think the amiga market has been the same size for the last 15 years....just us  *few* crazed users insisting that it is the best ( a statment that has long long long not been true anymore!)
 

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Re: Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 08, 2007, 11:59:09 PM »
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Well, then we can put, the opalvision modules, the AteoBus soundcard, the Picasso IV mpeg decoder and PowerPC module, and others.......but i don´t know the names nor the dates


If anyone has names I will add them.
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