Pegasos running native OS4 apps?

[Hondo]

Dear Genesi/Pegasos folks

What happens when OS4 and AmigaOne is released bigtime....and Pegasos find themselves unable to run native amiga software???

I see a split in the Amiga community coming!!!

Sad but true!

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[Palpatine]

Hi Hondo,

You can also turn that question around ;-)

Cheers,
Ron

[Hondo]

@Palpatine

I sure could....but that's just so far away from my thoughts at the moment.

Right now I want the original AmigaOS to come back.....more than anything.

And if the road splits before me.......I'll go where the Amiga name is still worth something!

Even if its' the hard road!!

That's the true spirit of the legendary Amiga!

It's not just a name....

[Palpatine]

@Hondo:

You might even meet a crossroad where AmigaOS4 leads both ways! ;-)

Cheers,
Ron

[alx]

Here's the way I see it:

ATM AOS and MOS are largely compatible.  Providing that you stick to something like the OpenAmiga specs, porting between them should be easy.

But eventually the two systems will diverge - for instance, the DE and the QBox are very different things.  By that point, they'll need enough users and developers to survive on their own.  

[Hondo]

I really would like to see Amiga Inc. and Genesi shaking hands and hearts........and bring OS4 to the Pegasos platform.........we need the momentum!

Could this be done??

The last thing this community needs is two separate fractions fighting each other. Why become enemies?

An alliance would make us all soooooooo much stronger!!

who'll be the first to forget the proudness, dissapointments, etc........and make that call..........that's the one who truely cares for the Amiga platform!!

[Palpatine]

@Hondo:

Sure, it can be done and probably will be done.

Regarding the fighting, a lot (most?) of that is done by fanatic users of either 'side' or 'camp'. Recent shows have shown that the companies involved are on a much more friendly level with eachother.

Cheers,
Ron

[itix]

Being Pegasos owner can't see problem there...

[_PAB_]

@Hondo_DK:
> An alliance would make us all soooooooo much stronger!

That's true but for that Genesi would have to give up MorphOS and pay the licence to AmigaInc.
I guess they will never do one of those things.

If AmigaOS 4.0 runs on a pegasos that is available without paying the licence fee to AmigaInc. then the people copying and cracking will destroy the market *again*.

[Troels_E]

Well Genesi employees always hint at the possibility that you could run OS4 on the Peg2 (just like they did to boost sales of the Peg1).

Truth is that there has been done nothing to accomplish that this will be possible in a legal way.

What we will eventually see is either Hyperion and Genesi agreeing on a port (that demands a little more than 600 sold pegs..) or some group of Pegasos owners hacking OS4 to work on the Peg(2).

I can allready see where the last option would eventually leave Hyperion, when OS4 would be spread for download all over the net.

So for Genesi I can only say put up or shut up... Sign the deal (same deal as Eyetech) or forget about AmigaOS4.x

Same goes for users that wants OS4. If you want the original you buy an AmigaOne and if you want an Amiga clone you buy a Pegasos2. Just don't expect OS4 to show up on that platform in a legal way.

[Palpatine]

@Troels:

Truth is that there has been done nothing to accomplish that this will be possible in a legal way.

How do you know that?

Just don't expect OS4 to show up on that platform in a legal way.

Again, how do you know that? You might be surprised in some time... :-)

Cheers,
Ron

[mahen]

Of course, there will necessarily be a split, but developers can still adapt MOS program to OS4 and OS4 programs to MOS easily. That'll change progressively, but this is the case ATM.

Personnally, I don't care if MorphOS is not the official AmigaOS ; if it's better, I'll stick with it :-) Anyway, AmigaOS4 does not share much more with the origial AmigaOS (as most had to be rewritten, as in MorphOS, and as it runs on completely different H/W, like MOS).

So for the moment, I prefer MOS because it's available for a long time, works well, if thought for the future with the boxes system, and because Genesi is much stronger than Hyperion/amigaInc, and make their own hardware. But if AmigaOS 4 turns out to be better and available soon, everything will get more complicated

I just fear people choose OS4 over MOS just because of the name. Anyway, OS4 should be available soon and we'll be up to compare the two systems objectively.

[Acill]

I have to agree with Ron here. You have no clue what is being done behind closed door with these guys. They could have made a deal now and will let it out when the time is right, or they may do it at a later date. We just need to wait and see how it all ends up when OS4 is out.

[that_punk_guy]

Troels_E wrote:

I can allready see where the last option would eventually leave Hyperion, when OS4 would be spread for download all over the net.

I don't see how distributing a crack for OS4 would automatically mean it got pirated into the ground...?

[Troels_E]

Ok, I may have expressed that in a wrong way...

There was a lot of talks that  OS4 would appear on the Peg1 still Genesi never signed the needed contracts, it was just talks to get people that wanted OS4 to buy a Pegasos.

Now there's talks about OS4 coming to the Peg2 but still no papers signed.

I am certain that Genesi and Hyperion would do a pressrelease the moment such a contract existed, therefore I conclude that it doesn't exist.

We have also seen comments from Ben Hermans that says it won't happen unless the Peg2 sells more than the initial 600(IIRC) there's produced, and then there's still the contracts that neds to be signed.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see OS4 on a Peg2, 3, 4 and whatever they are called