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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2020, 04:32:31 PM »
My apologies for not beig specific. In the router control panel, all the computers are listed by name, with the IP Addresses for each one. The only exception is the Amiga, in that it shows the IP Address, but lists the device as unknown. I can ping all the computers except the Amiga.

I have found the Ping command in Miami, but when I attempt to use it, the message reads Unable to open miami.library version 8.

AmiTCP-4.3 is also on thre machine, and I am able to start it, but I do not know its' function. There is also an icon for something called Samba.

All of the computers are connected to the router via an Ethernet cable, and the Amiga is able to access the internet.

I have another old PC running Windows 7 I brought out of storage, and it can ping the other computers, but not the Amiga.

I did run Tracert straight from the Search command. Will try the CMD shortly, as well as the Miaminetstat command and post the results. Thank you for your patience and assistance, it is GREATLY appreciated.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2020, 07:01:43 PM »
So: Went the CMD route for the Mac and received the following info: <1ms  <1ms  <1ms   plus the ip address  Trace Complete.

Was unable to connect with the Amiga, message was Request Timed Out.

As for the Miamistat process, copied the icon to the C directory, and opened a Shell. The shell did not look like yours. It defaulted to:

New Shell process 8
8Workbench:>

No matter what combination of words I typed in to access Miamistat, the cli said Unknown command.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2020, 08:00:35 PM »
Hi Chris, and thanks for your input. Most of what you say is over my head.

The modem is relatively new from my ISP, as are the cables, some of which run underground from the media box in my house to my studio where the Amiga is located, so changing them out is impractical at the moment.

I am not familiar with DHCP, nor how to edit the tcp/ip software. This is a complex network and my skill set is not good enough to mess with it. Push comes to shove, I would have to hire someone to check things out, and finding someone in this neck of the woods that is familiar enough with Amiga hard and software is nigh on to impossible.

Am still trying to determine what tcp/ip software the Amiga is using, as it says that Miami is not installed, yet the machine is able to connect with the internet.

I understand what you are saying about device numbers all having the same first three sets, and they all do, including the Amiga. The only difference appears to be the last digits, EG: there are six computers in the network, and in five of them, the last digits are only two numbers and they are sequential, with the exception of the Amiga which has three.

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2020, 09:04:07 PM »
Windows is XP

Don't quite follow this:

"Put a zero in front of the last number and make it the same number of digits.

Oop's make that 2 digits, IP's are picky."

EG: if the other machines are numbered   20, 21, 22, etc., and the Amiga is 123, what would I change it to,and how/where?

 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2020, 09:30:29 PM »
" one more thing, make sure the gateway on the Amiga is the same as the router's IP."

What, where is that?
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2020, 11:43:02 PM »
So, Using Amitcp the Amiga gateway address is the same as the router's address.

What about this?

"Put a zero in front of the last number and make it the same number of digits.

Oop's make that 2 digits, IP's are picky."

EG: if the other machines are numbered   20, 21, 22, etc., and the Amiga is 123, what would I change it to,and how/where?
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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2021, 01:34:01 AM »
So:

Thanks for that.

I have been on the telephone with my ISP support and discovered that the ip address that I thought was for the modem is actually just to log into the gui for the modem control panel. The modem has a separate ip address. Silly me.

Looking through the Amitcp configuration utility it appears that the reason for the three digits at the end of the Amiga's ip address is because it is set as static, not dynamic. I don't know if that was the standard of the day. As you may have noticed, I am not familiar with the workings of the Amiga, I used it
for graphics, animation, desktop publishing, etc., and had an Amiga tech who set all these up for me, so I don't know the ins and outs of Amitcp.

To be continued....

 



 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2021, 02:42:59 AM »
Thanks for the clarification. Will look at roadshow.

Looking at my modem control panel, it does have the option to reserve a DHCp address, requires manual entry of what is called a MAC address, as well as the IP address, which can end in three digits, choices for both available via drop down menus.

 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2021, 07:12:56 PM »
I have seen those types of numbers in my explorations yesterday.

Yes, it appears that the Amiga is using AmiTCP. i have to deal with some minor household situations today, so will be away from the computer. Will get back to it and review all this ASAP.

Thanks for this and Happy New Year.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2021, 06:03:53 PM »
Back at it today, reviewing AmiTCP configurations.  :)
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2021, 06:54:59 PM »
PC is running XP.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2021, 06:59:46 PM »
Getting back to AmiTCP:

Have photos of each

Have looked at the Configuration setup, and have photos of each screen, if required.

As for procedure:

I first open the Amitcp drawer on the Amiga. There is an icon that says Start AmiTCP, so I click on it.

Next, I click on the Config AmiTCP icon, which allows me to either Install for Real or Pretend to Install. I have been pretending to install as an exercise.

Next window lists several options. Above the options a message reads AmiTCP seems to be already configured, select one of the following, so I choose Modify IP provider configuration.

Next window says select one of the following configuration styles, so I choose Fixed Nework Connection.

Next window says Do you want to keep the current interface, which is “wf_ethernet”, I choose yes.

Next window says Give IP address for the interface wf-ethernet. Current defaukt is 192.168.1.125, which is listed in the Home Network Window of the Modem control panel as belonging to Unknown, which I take to be the Amiga, because when the Amiga is running, Unknown shows as connected, when the Amiga is off, unknown shows as Inactive.

Next window says Give net mask of the network on the interface wf-ethernet. Address of the interface is 192.168.1.125. Give an empty string if you want to bypass this option. I leave the default, as this is just an exercise in familiarity with the process.

Next window says Give the IP address of the default gateway or give an empty string. Current default is 192.168.1.254.

Next window asks if your name server configured static or dynamic? Default is Static.

Next window says Give the Maximum Transfer Unit (MTU) for the interface. 0 represents the interface default (maximum) This is set at zero. Below says Valid range is 0 to 1500

Next window appears to be a summary, says This is the configuration you gave:

Interface: wf-ethernet
IP Address: 192.168.1.125
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway address: 192.168.1.254
UseBootP: NO
Dynamic Name Servers: NO
MTU:  <default>

 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2021, 07:17:47 PM »
So, in checking the configuration settings an the Amiga, I see that the subnet mask, default gateway and DNS Server numbers are conforming. The only question marks at the moment have to do with the Amiga's identity on the router control panel and the Amiga IP address. The router sees the Amiga's current IP Address, but shows the word Unknown as the name of the Amiga. I know it is the Amiga because when I turn the Amiga on and off while looking at the router control panel,
Unknown will show as Connected or Inactive appropriately.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2021, 07:21:23 PM »
As an addendum to the last post, I do not see where to change the Amiga identity from Unknown to something else. In an article I found on AmiTCP, that identity appears to be set at the time of installation. Have to dig out the AmiTCP manual to see if there is anything there.
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2021, 08:59:15 PM »
Did IPCONFIG earlier, and IP's Mask, Gateway and AmiTCP all conform.

All computers, except the Amiga have sequential IP Addresses.

Do not use WiFi, do not use cell phone for anything other than phone/camera.

Do not know if all Amiga's have same MAC addresses.

Still do not know how to rename the Amiga from Unknown, or why it can connect to the Internet, but not Network.

Hesitant to make any major changes at the moment as my skill set is insufficient to resolve any accidental issues that may pop up, especially as they are all working, except the Amiga.

Am starting to think that the router's firewall may be interering with the Amiga.

Need to take a step back to review the situation before making any changes. :)
 

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Re: Networking issues
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 02, 2021, 10:17:15 PM »
That's a good question, I was wondering that myself. I thought I put it in Hardware Issues and discussions,but I may have messed up. :-\