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Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« on: December 29, 2020, 08:30:56 AM »
@nineoc - it sounds like a fun setup

For the Amiga what Network software are you using, Miami, Roadshow etc? (OS 3.5 has one built in too). Unlike MacOS and Windows you usually have to start it manually.

Something else to look at (if you are connecting to the network) is the IP address of your Amiga: Amiga Explorer on Windows has to have a fixed IP address to talk to the Amiga over TCP/IP. Maybe moving and having a different network means your Amiga is getting a different IP address. Are you able to see what IP address your Amiga is getting (maybe you can log into the router to find this out) and then right-click the Amiga Explorer icon in Windows to see if they match.

Finally (for now) you have to run the Amiga Explorer client on the Amiga to allow Windows to connect to it, so make sure that's running too.
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2020, 07:05:57 PM »
It's great to know that you are able to get online with the Amiga - that will help troubleshooting.

Strange about Amiga Explorer. I get a menu up if I right-click it and I see this in Properties. Does right-click work for other icons in Windows?
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2020, 08:43:53 AM »
I wonder if it's using something other than Miami as the TCP/IP stack if Miami gives an error when it's run but you can get onto the Internet (I'm assuming you mean you can get onto web sites or similar).

Have a look in the WBStartup drawer to see which programmes run when you boot up or look at your startup-sequence and user-startup files (in the S Drawer) to se if you can identify what programmes run.

Does your Router have an option to Ping devices through one of the admin pages? If so can you ping the Amiga from there?

From the PC you could also try tracert in a Command Prompt. Format is `tracert <IP address of Amiga>` e.g. tracert 192.168.0.123. This will show how Windows is navigating across the network to try and access the Amiga.

I don't know how knowledgable you are about Amigas & IT in general so apologies if anything above is too simple or complex.
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2020, 10:35:45 AM »
Great - you're starting to get somewhere by being able to access the router. Please can you confirm what you mean that you can connect with everything except the Amiga? Can you Ping the Amiga from the router?

The last thing I want to confirm is that your Amiga 2000 is connected to the router via an Ethernet cable? This might sound obvious but it's possible to connect Amiga to PC via Parallel or Serial link and hook onto the PC's networking capability to access the Internet. The things below apply if you are using Ethernet...

Tracert on Windows: It reads like you have run Tracert straight from the Search/command bar near the Start menu. Instead type CMD in the same way and this will open up a command prompt window which should stay open as you run commands. Run Tracert in there and it will stay open for you to see the output.

Confirming your IP address: As you have Miami installed, even if it's not working properly, there is a command you can use called Miaminetstat which will display information about your Network e.g. confirm your IP address etc. Because your Miami isn't set up properly (it warns about the missing Assign), it might be easier to find the Miaminetstat file and copy it to the C: Directory. Once you have done that open up Shell on the Amiga and just type 'Miaminetstat' whilst online to see what it shows. Attached is a pic of the relevant part of the output on my machine.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2020, 10:44:17 AM by AndyFC »
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2021, 02:16:08 PM »
The MAC address is the harware address of your network card and is completely unique. It has the format of 6 lots of 2-digit HEX numbers e.g. 6C:71:D9:d9:8A:6B. (It's like the postal address of your house - it's fixed and can't change).

You can see the one for your Windows PC by typing "ipconfig /all" in a Command (DOS) Prompt from Windows.

You also MIGHT be able to get that information from your Router's control panel for your Amiga's network card or sometime's it's on a sticker on the card itself.

I'm just catching up on the thread - is it confirmed you're using AmiTCP? I'm not familiar with that but there might be a command or a section in the software which shows you the MAC address.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2021, 02:16:52 PM by AndyFC »
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline AndyFC

Re: Networking issues
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2021, 08:33:03 AM »
It's possible it could be caused by your router - is it a different one to the one you used the last time you had everything set up and working?

I have an old TP-Link hub (nothing fancy it doesn't even have a web interface to manage it) and my Amiga isn't able to get onto the Internet when connected to it but everything else is plug-n-play.

Whereabouts roughly do you live? Might be worth seeing if there are any other Amigans locally to you (and take into account any restictions on meeting up).
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs (softkicking 3.2.2), OS 3.2.2 with ClassicWB, CF card, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Pistorm 32 lite with Pi4/2GB/Emu68 or Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX.
MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro