I've tried madrake a few times since version 7 to 8.2, but never liked it, I've used Suse 5.2 and 7.3. I've been using RedHat 8.0 with apt-get installed for 3 or 4 weeks now since i decided to get rid of my "aquired" copy of windows xp for good. I must say it's very good once you installed apt/mp3/divx/dvd/nvidia drivers/Mozilla Xft/UADE for XMMS/Bastille. Reminds me of using my Amiga all those years ago. Can't put my finger on why though? Maybe it's because GNOME 2 is more responsive than the bloated KDE 3.