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Title: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 01, 2021, 12:29:07 PM

I have had no issues in the past with copying files with Dopus on my current setup. For some unknown reason to myself when I try and copy game the following message appears

PSF-III Error Requester

Device DH2:
ALERT:
Wrong ablock id

Is there anyway I can overcome this issue?

Thanks

Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: TribbleSmasher on April 01, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
What are you trying to copy and from where?
Maybe the filename is illegal or too long and PFS filesystem can't handle it? What does the PFS help explain about this type of error?
 
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 01, 2021, 02:18:57 PM
Hi,

If I try and copy a WHDLoad game from one folder to another folder on the games directory. The same message comes up even if I try and drag a folder from one location to another.

I was able to perform this task a few months ago but for some reason I can't now.

When the message appears I have clicked on "ok"

Another box comes up saying

PFS-III Error Requestor
Device DH2:
LRU update failed.


Press ok again

Device SH2
Disk update failed
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 01, 2021, 03:55:59 PM
Sounds like a filesystem problem. I'm not sure what repair/recovery tools are available for PFS, but be prepared for the possibility that you might need to copy everything to another partition and reformat.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 02, 2021, 04:24:38 PM
Is it possible I can remove everything from the Games partition and format it?

Am I best to use WinUAE to carry this out?

Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 02, 2021, 06:31:59 PM
You can use whatever you want for the backup. If there's any possibility of mechanical drive failure (how old is the drive?) you should plug the drive into WinUAE and copy everything to a hardfile. Otherwise you can do a local backup to another partition on the same disk. Once you're confident your data has been preserved, reformat the affected partition and copy everything back.

Make sure you preserve the protection bits and datestamps when copying. If you're using the shell, use the CLONE argument on the copy command. I think DOpus has this option enabled by default.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 06, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
You can use whatever you want for the backup. If there's any possibility of mechanical drive failure (how old is the drive?) you should plug the drive into WinUAE and copy everything to a hardfile. Otherwise you can do a local backup to another partition on the same disk. Once you're confident your data has been preserved, reformat the affected partition and copy everything back.

Make sure you preserve the protection bits and datestamps when copying. If you're using the shell, use the CLONE argument on the copy command. I think DOpus has this option enabled by default.

Its a 32GB CF card, less that 6 months old. Okay I have tested moving a folder from one location to another on the system partition and that works okay. So it seems its just the Games partition is having issues.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 06, 2021, 10:08:10 PM
Its a 32GB CF card, less that 6 months old. Okay I have tested moving a folder from one location to another on the system partition and that works okay. So it seems its just the Games partition is having issues.

Very likely to be a filesystem problem, then. I'm assuming the drive is properly partitioned and using a >4GB-capable device driver? (use Thomas's check4gb (http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/download.html) if you are unsure.) If so, backup, reformat, and restore and you should be up and running.

There's still a small possibility the CF card is faulty and failed prematurely. Do a full drive backup with WinUAE if you have any irreplaceable data, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 08, 2021, 11:44:21 AM
Its a 32GB CF card, less that 6 months old. Okay I have tested moving a folder from one location to another on the system partition and that works okay. So it seems its just the Games partition is having issues.

Very likely to be a filesystem problem, then. I'm assuming the drive is properly partitioned and using a >4GB-capable device driver? (use Thomas's check4gb (http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/download.html) if you are unsure.) If so, backup, reformat, and restore and you should be up and running.

There's still a small possibility the CF card is faulty and failed prematurely. Do a full drive backup with WinUAE if you have any irreplaceable data, just to be safe.

I have ran the 4GB capable device driver, it has came up with DH2 Games 13GB PFS3 >4GB Yes

I guess its now a case of transferring all 4000 games from the games directory via WinUAE.  :-\
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 08, 2021, 02:36:19 PM
okay so I have found a program called WinImage.

I have backed up my CF card just incase anything happens.

What is the best way to just backup my Games partition format it and then restore the data back on the partition?

Or am I best to just restore the who CF card image?
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 08, 2021, 05:07:52 PM
Since there’s currently a filesystem error, simply restoring the disk image you made will also restore the filesystem error. Like I said above, all you need to do is copy the contents of your games partition to another partition, reformat, and copy back.

Set up a hardfile in WinUAE with enough capacity to hold the contents of your games partition. Then copy everything to that hardfile using either DOpus or the shell (copy gamespartition:#? backuppartition: all clone).

I’m assuming that the error on your games partition prevents writing to the partition but that you can still read from it. If you can’t read it, i.e., if you can’t copy the files off, you’ll need to look into a fix-in-place utility to correct the filesystem error, but that’s beyond my knowledge for PFS.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: nbache on April 08, 2021, 06:20:01 PM
Since there’s currently a filesystem error, simply restoring the disk image you made will also restore the filesystem error. Like I said above, all you need to do is copy the contents of your games partition to another partition, reformat, and copy back.
As I've seen this a couple of times now, can I just point out that you are missing the crucial step 2 in the procedure.

1. Backup
2. Verify your backup
3. Format
4. Restore

Noone wants a write-only backup to be their only copy of important data.

Best regards,

Niels
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 08, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
Since there’s currently a filesystem error, simply restoring the disk image you made will also restore the filesystem error. Like I said above, all you need to do is copy the contents of your games partition to another partition, reformat, and copy back.
As I've seen this a couple of times now, can I just point out that you are missing the crucial step 2 in the procedure.

1. Backup
2. Verify your backup
3. Format
4. Restore

Noone wants a write-only backup to be their only copy of important data.

Best regards,

Niels

Excellent point. I did mention it in an earlier post (https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=75136.msg852141#msg852141) but it's always worth repeating.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Castellen on April 08, 2021, 08:23:18 PM
This looks similar to the PFS problem I reported to Toni Wilen several years ago, which he resolved.

Would be worth confirming that you're using the current version of the filesystem:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/pfs3aio
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 19, 2021, 11:49:33 PM
What is the best way to format the Games folder?

When I attempt to format it the same way I would to a format a floppy disk a Window pops up saying " Professional File System 3 v5

Press mouse to continue

I press ok and then it says Initializing disk but nothing happens and it doesn't format the Games partition.

What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Pat the Cat on April 20, 2021, 06:49:00 AM
If you can now copy files back to the partition, you've done nothing wrong.

If you can't, the partition needs a session with HDToolbox,

I would try adding then updating the filesystem, using the filesytem (updated version) that Castellan posted.

Then rebooting and trying to format the partition.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: sturulez on April 20, 2021, 08:41:34 AM
I have downloaded pfs3aio.lha, where abouts do I place the file or how do I use it?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Matt_H on April 20, 2021, 08:13:12 PM
How did you prep your hard drive and install PFS initially? The procedure is virtually the same.
The summary version is:
1. Extract pfs3aio.lha
2. Copy pfs3aio to L:
3. Open HDToolbox
4. In the partitioning screen, choose Add/Update Filesystem
5. Select the existing PFS, choose Update
6. Select L:pfs3aio
7. Save changes and reboot.

The details will vary slightly depending on your OS version. There may be other things you need to adjust, e.g., DOSType, but hopefully not. Either way, it sounds like you're not very familiar with this kind of procedure, in which case you should make absolutely sure that you have a full drive backup in case something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Error when trying to copy files from Dopus
Post by: Pat the Cat on April 21, 2021, 12:04:59 AM
I have downloaded pfs3aio.lha, where abouts do I place the file or how do I use it?

Many thanks

This is a rather dated video of setting up a drive from scratch, more than what you are trying to do here;-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckL5xYQjqLo

The relevant part of changing the filesystem on a drive, is about 3 minutes 20 seconds into the video.

The thing is that the old version of PFs filesystem on the drive is rather buggy with the 3.14 scsi.device (you don't have to do that bit, just the filesystem on the one partition).

This makes any data on that partition unreadable and you have to format the drive (which is what you are trying to do).

The filesystem written to a hard drive partition is like an interpretation and "method list" of code for doing things like copying and deleting files and formatting disks. If it becomes corrupt or obsolete with a version of scsi.device, then it has to be replaced.

Remember the limits, the limit is about 100GB for that particular filesystem. I doubt you'll need to change anything else but that filesystem to be able to go on and format the partition.