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Offline scuzzb494Topic starter

Workbench Blues
« on: July 31, 2017, 07:40:38 PM »
Hi

These variations on the Amiga Workbench got me really thinking about
just which Workbench I actually had running on the various 500s or
machines with the 1.3. So I did a bit of a run around and the pictures
show the various themes.

First up is the A1500 running on an Electrohome monitor using a A2094
card to power a 3.5" drive.

Kickstart 40.63 Workbench 34.34 Commodore 1985-1993 and that was ...
Shipped with: Amiga 500, 2000, available as update 1990.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_july17/car_sbd_270717_32.jpg
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_133.html

Next we have the A500 with GVP HD Plus running on a Philips CM8833-II
with a 3.5" drive in the sidecar.

Kickstart 34.50 Workbench 34.30 and so ... Shipped with: Amiga 500,
2000, available as update 1988.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_july17/car_sbd_270717_33.jpg
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_13.html

Moving on to the A500 with the A590 XT drive sidecar running on a 1438
Microvitec .

Kickstart 37.175 Workbench 34.28 and so ... Shipped with: Amiga 500,
2000, available as update 1989

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_july17/car_sbd_270717_34.jpg
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_132.html

This was the OS that came on an Amiga magazine disk. Also was issued on
official Commodore disks 1.3.2.

Next we have a grey screen with an A500 and A590 XT drive running on a
Commodore 1081.

Kickstart 40.63 [ no less ] Workbench 40.42 Setpatch 40.16 1985-1993 .
And so this is Workbench 3.1 running off a 3.1 ROM on a humble A500 with
an old A590 XT drive. How cool is that. Released in 1994 for all classic
Amigas.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_july17/car_sbd_270717_35.jpg
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_31.html

And finally we have THE VIPER. An A500 fitted with internal 2.5" drive
running on a SONY TRINITRON TV off a scart. The drive is fitted to the
Viper 520 CD.

Kickstart 39.106 Workbench 39.29 1985-1992 and is Workbench 3.0 with the
3.0 ROM designed for AGA machines.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/car_0608/car08400.jpg

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_july17/car_sbd_270717_36.jpg
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_30.html

Now remember what I said at the start. These are A500 designed Workbench
machines and yet they use anything but. I struggled like mad yesterday
to find a machine running the actual original 1.3 Workbench and found it
only on the A1000, albeit on a disk with associated 1.3 Kickstart disk.
Seems that everyone in the day was hell bent on expanding their A500s to
the limit. I know the one machine here is a 1500, but it still uses the
1.3 by choice.

Fascinating... My A500 1.3 adventure is not over yet and I certainly
intend having them all in for interrogation to see what they have under
each of their hoods. What makes it more interesting is the use of the
ROM switchers on machines.

[The Workbench gallery can be found on the scuzzblog diaries section of
the website.]

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_diaries.htm

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblogdjul17_3103.htm

scuzz

Offline scuzzb494Topic starter

Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 08:12:10 PM »
Hi

My search for the missing 1.3.2. version that came on the Amiga magazine disk uncovered some A590's in need of some tender loving care.

The A590 journey in pictures from the unit I thought was the only one I had in a box to me formatting the two empty partitions and installing 2.1. Realising that I had another 590 in a box and similarly formatted and installed 2.1 . To me searching through various A590s for the missing 35.28 update installation. Found it. Phew !!

This won't mean a whole heap of sense unless you read the last two posts from my diary

Everything you see here is running on an XT hard drive

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_august17/scuzzblogdaugust17_0401.htm

scuzz

Offline scuzzb494Topic starter

Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2017, 02:52:31 AM »
Reflecting on the joys of Amiga icons whilst sifting through disks and today I created a self booting disk to try out a bit of BootBlock software and ventured into the realms of Iconian. Thought I would tag it onto this thread rather than start another if anyone finds this stuff interesting.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_august17/scuzzblogdaugust17_0601.htm

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Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2017, 03:36:03 AM »
Nice little Miggy disk trick! :) About once a month me and the budz get together over to a friends' garage for a beer fest where everyone is "RICK"! LOL How's it hanging RICK? WTF RICK! Kick the 35 year old man-child outta the house lately RICK? Wife hit your '68 Camaro in your driveway lately RICK! Get me a beer RICK! :roflmao:

Read your blog entry and still don't know how you did that (have to put my RICK hat on & figure it out)! Guess I'll have to come up with a RICK singer for my Icon. Rick Springfield? Nooooooooooo! Rick Nelson? Noooooooo! Well, I'll think off something.

Anyhoo, love Amiga tips & tricks and the ScuzzBlog! :)
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Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2017, 05:24:50 AM »
Quote from: scuzzb494;828902
Kickstart 40.63 Workbench 34.34 Commodore 1985-1993 and that was ...
Shipped with: Amiga 500, 2000, available as update 1990.
Certainly not shipped this way. Kickstart 40.63 was shipped with workbench 40.xx, and that's both part of Os 3.1. Workbench 34.34 is something that came with 1.3. Sure, tools on this workbench will (typically) continue to work, but it is not recommendable.
 

Offline scuzzb494Topic starter

Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2017, 11:37:47 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;829157
Certainly not shipped this way. Kickstart 40.63 was shipped with workbench 40.xx, and that's both part of Os 3.1. Workbench 34.34 is something that came with 1.3. Sure, tools on this workbench will (typically) continue to work, but it is not recommendable.


The Amiga is a bulldozer though. I just keep ploughing through the barriers. It's more fun that way.

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Re: Workbench Blues
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2017, 03:20:38 PM »
Quote from: scuzzb494;829162
The Amiga is a bulldozer though. I just keep ploughing through the barriers. It's more fun that way.

Many commands from C: from the 1.3 workbench will *not* work on top of a 3.1 kickstart, most notably "Ed" will not. 1.3 kickstart had the BCPL dos, a switch to C/assembly was made in 2.0 (based on arp) with a slight interface change in the internal "globvec" structure that affects legacy BCPL commands here and there.

So, in general, not recommendable.