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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2007, 03:39:04 PM »
Well after looking at the chip specs, (Spartan) the pins are *EXTREMELY SMALL*, like a 0.3mm pin.

Unless I can find someone local to me who would be willing to do the soldering for like a board and parts to their own minimig, I am not going to undertake Populated boards.

And by the looks of it, people want populated boards, not Bare PCB.  Knowing my luck, a $35 chip goes pop because I cannot see or fix a solder short. :(
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2007, 04:28:01 PM »
This shows a few methods for working with SMP coponents.  I use the "toaster oven" method myself.
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2007, 04:43:42 PM »
People will want populated boards. It's convenient. People want convenience. I have some soldering skills but I'd rather not attempt a surface mount. The battery hack and fixing a few dry joints are about as far as I'd want to go on an Amiga. I'd rather pay $100-$150 for a working board than have to risk destroying one trying to build it myself. Judging by the responses, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2007, 04:52:05 PM »
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The way it works, is when minimig boots, the PIC microprogrammer, accesses the MMC, and reads the core, and loads the Core into FPGA, The core is fired up and loads the Kickstart (Like any other amiga)into Ram.  

The core and stuff is stored on the MMC, along with the ADF's of the games.


So you need a PIC programmer too. Have the binaries for the PIC and the other things that go on the SD card been posted, or do you need to get the compilers?
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2007, 05:03:29 PM »
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This shows a few methods for working with SMP coponents.  I use the "toaster oven" method myself.


Yeah I read about that, but I do not think the wife will be happy with me Hacking the Toaster oven.
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2007, 05:23:24 PM »
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So you need a PIC programmer too. Have the binaries for the PIC and the other things that go on the SD card been posted, or do you need to get the compilers?


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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 08:40:46 PM »
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Now, as I am located in Melbourne (Australia), I am searching for the member here that also lives in Melbourne, who was Interested in a Minimig but had Surface mount skills. He did state that in a post, but I cannot find the Damned post. (Can you contact me dude, if you remember who you are ?)

Would that be CodePoet?
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2007, 09:47:16 PM »
I'd like a fully assembled board as well (I'm one of those that make soldering on a PCB look like it's done by a blind Gorilla with a blow-torch :-)). It shouldn't work out to be all to big money but I think I can justify up to about 100 euros, even willing to pay about 50% in advance...
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2007, 10:30:22 PM »
Why don't you do what Commodore did when they announced the Pet? (As written in 'On The Edge: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore')

That is, take the payment up front with the promise to deliver in 90 days, then use it to actually make the machine! According to the book, when they started taking orders, they only had a few prototypes and hadn't started production.

Seriously, I will be willing to pay (some) money up-front as a deposit. Ideally, I'd like one Minimig already built, and one board (so I can see if I am competent enought to build one myself!)
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2007, 10:31:41 PM »
I want a fully working MiniMig. I'd be willing to pay upto £80 inc P&P. I was on the original 10 list for Joel / Xeneep but have not heard anything since he said he was too busy to get them done.

Does anyone know a company that can do the PCB, mount the chips etc... and get ACTUAL prices for say 100, 200 or 300? Not a made up price or guessed price or "it will be £500+ each!"... ACTUAL prices.

Then if the price is reasonable or a price that people would pay, we could setup a deposit account (paypal or whatever) and people could order. When the total reaches the amount needed we order. If after 6 months the total isnt reached, everyone gets their money back. that way no one person has to lay out £2000 or whatever and also no one would loose their money.
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2007, 10:32:36 PM »
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That is, take the payment up front with the promise to deliver in 90 days, then use it to actually make the machine! According to the book, when they started taking orders, they only had a few prototypes and hadn't started production.

Seriously, I will be willing to pay (some) money up-front as a deposit. Ideally, I'd like one Minimig already built, and one board (so I can see if I am competent enought to build one myself!)
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2007, 10:40:06 PM »
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2007, 10:52:33 PM »
I'd pay up front to help get the ball rolling.
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2007, 10:55:49 PM »
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I'd pay up front to help get the ball rolling.


We need prices first obviously. if it turns out to be £200+ then less people will want one i guess no matter how many people say "Ill pay a million pounds for one!!!!"
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 12:36:47 AM »
Hello again.

So then as an 'end user' I would really only require a memory card with the appropriate rom and whatever games I would like to use?

Of course I may have misread the information on Denis' page...

If its really that simple and the price is within my budget I would also pay a deposit to help an individual get this project off the ground.

Ok, Business, not in the spirit of this project.
Sorry about my poor choice of words.
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Re: Another Proposed Minimig Production run.
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 21, 2007, 12:59:28 AM »
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or business get this project off the ground


I would wonder if actually making a "business" out of this might attract the ire of KMOS. Maybe it's better to keep it a "home brew" project.

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