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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 25, 2015, 09:54:19 AM »
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2015, 09:56:58 AM »
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Of course it is a joke in Amiga land.


Yes - that is the bigger picture here!
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2015, 05:06:41 PM »
Anyways, having the soft link RAM:Disk.info is way more elegant than any other solution I have seen, any changes done to ram disk icon are instantly saved to envarc:sys/def_RAM.info without any background process or silly script running, no special interaction on my part, and it of course survives reboots.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2015, 08:25:32 PM »
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My wishlist add?  Transparent background option for Amidock.  :biglaugh:

Yes, that would be nice and easy. But actually you can fake it: see AKReal:

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And also you can see in the screenshot at the bottom WBDock by Thomas that has an emulated transparent background included.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2015, 05:18:11 PM »
More annoying quirks - c:date again, and locale - how do I tell c:date to accept English input even when my locates are Norwegian? And how lame is it, that it insists on "local" language input, when the error message it spits out, is always in english? It is kinda hopeless to use c:date in scripts, since what it spits out and accept as input, depends on locale settings. I have tried to set both local and global variable "language", but it doesn't care.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2015, 09:13:56 PM »
Quote from: kolla;797013
More annoying quirks - c:date again, and locale - how do I tell c:date to accept English input even when my locates are Norwegian? And how lame is it, that it insists on "local" language input, when the error message it spits out, is always in english? It is kinda hopeless to use c:date in scripts, since what it spits out and accept as input, depends on locale settings. I have tried to set both local and global variable "language", but it doesn't care.


It is probably using dos.library/StrToDate() with FORMAT_DEF to parse input. With that option it is always using localized parsing. Other options are international format (whaaat...), Canadian (eh?), American (USA) and AmigaDOS format.

There is something missing in the API and it is consistency...
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2015, 01:18:06 PM »
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I think its great that your starting a list that could potentially lead to boingbag5.  Others currently running 3.9 with with boingbags1-4 should chime in too with ideas for improvements.  I hope to join those ranks soon! :laugh1:



Errrm - did I miss something?
I only know the official BoingBags I & II from Haage&Partner, as well as their Euro-Update.

I also seem to remember having heard about an unofficial, buggy BoingBag III.

But BoingBag IV or even V? Never heard of it...

Care to explain?
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2015, 02:13:15 PM »
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It is probably using dos.library/StrToDate() with FORMAT_DEF to parse input. With that option it is always using localized parsing. Other options are international format (whaaat...), Canadian (eh?), American (USA) and AmigaDOS format.


Yes, and C:Date should have option flags to support more formats, and it should very well be localized itself too.

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There is something missing in the API and it is consistency...


Indeed.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2015, 02:30:17 PM »
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Errrm - did I miss something?
I only know the official BoingBags I & II from Haage&Partner, as well as their Euro-Update.

I also seem to remember having heard about an unofficial, buggy BoingBag III.

But BoingBag IV or even V? Never heard of it...

Care to explain?

The readme for the latest "Unofficial" BB3 & BB4 is available here:

http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBags3&4.readme

Use this link to download:

http://amigan.1emu.net/releases

Note: BB3 was finished years ago but BB4 is still WIP. ;)
 

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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2015, 06:37:39 PM »
I have ended up reverting a lot of the BB3+4 package, it goes a bit beyond just getting in the latest updates.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2015, 07:14:59 PM »
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I have ended up reverting a lot of the BB3+4 package, it goes a bit beyond just getting in the latest updates.



Did you also revert to Windows 95 because Windows 7 "went a bit beyond just getting in the latest updates"? :lol: :lol:
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2015, 09:31:42 PM »
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Did you also revert to Windows 95 because Windows 7 "went a bit beyond just getting in the latest updates"? :lol: :lol:


No, I would revert to Windows 98SE.

My point is just that BB3+4 pulls in third party libraries and things that sometimes are incompatible with original software, and that can be annoying - for example PeterK's icon.library, for example latest KingCON, for example THE which I don't even want in the first place, and much more. Also, it did not check if I had Genesis installed or not before it "updated" my non-existing installation, creating an Internet folder without any icon, and with some useless binaries in it. And yeah, I hate it when installer scripts mess around.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.x improvements
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2015, 07:01:33 AM »
@kolla:

BB3&4 V1.1 has been released and addresses these issues.
http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/