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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 07:42:05 PM »
I always ask for PayPal donations for all my software (with the exception of Hively because its based on AHX), but to date have only received one payment.

Never mind. Maybe one day i'll write something people think is worth money ;-)
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2007, 07:44:57 PM »
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What is sad about Amiga


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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2007, 08:11:47 PM »
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Nobody can buy AOS, thats why I can't make a dollar on that platform.


The only people making money outta the Amiga these days are the lawyers. :evil:
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2007, 08:28:17 PM »
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vic20owner wrote:
Nah, I paid $$ for Amiga Explorer.

There are a ton of things for the Amiga that people would pay for.



If new apps/games were developed for the Vic20, would you buy them? :-D


I think there are still a lot more Amiga users that would buy good programs than Vic20 users.

I know that I would gladly buy new programs for the Amigas that I have.  If you are only interested in coding for AOS 4.x, then you will be waiting for a long time to make any money.  At least 3.9 has thousands of active users that might send a coder some money, if the program is good enough.
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2007, 08:58:52 PM »
@ PVC

It's not just about making a buck you know,  Some people invest a lot of time into these programs/ games and some return on it is nice, also helps fund buying some new hardware/software ect.  I donate money to people who develop software and I pay shareware fees for software I like, as I think it shows appreciation to the author and helps encourage further development.  Making a little extra spending money should not make someone feel guilty.  Besides if coders wanted only to make money they sure as heck wouldn't choose the Amiga platform.
 

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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2007, 11:56:03 PM »
Im not a programer but support funding them in money or trade as this keeps the amiga alive.We need software to run the hardware.I have traded before for a program which i thougt was a great idea.Money isnt everything but sad to regretably say we do need it.Good luck mate
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2007, 12:03:02 AM »
@koaftder

do one of the aros bountys and you will earn som cash ;)

look here...
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2007, 12:17:29 AM »
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koaftder wrote:
I made a buck writing some code for PalmOS. I'll never make a dollar writing something for AOS.


Unlike PalmOS, AmigaOS is no longer a commercial product, hence any code you write for the Amiga is written for the love of it and to benefit the community, nothing else.

Whats really sad about the Amiga is that there are community members still trying to milk money from it even though the teet dried up long ago, just like Amiga Inc.


NB. My definition of a commercial product may differ from yours. In order for something to be a commercial product, it must be availiable for purchase commercially.
 

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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2007, 12:17:40 AM »
I'd pay a lot for Firefox 2 (or almost any version of Mozilla) for Amiga/CyberStormPPC w/CyberVision 8mb graphics, but I know that it is only a dream that will never come true.

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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2007, 12:22:03 AM »
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I'd pay a lot for Firefox 2 (or almost any version of Mozilla) for Amiga/CyberStormPPC w/CyberVision 8mb graphics, but I know that it is only a dream that will never come true.

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Why should you pay for Firefox when nobody else does?
 

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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2007, 10:35:22 PM »
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Why should you pay for Firefox when nobody else does?


I think he's talking about paying someone to port it to AmigaOS.

And, no, the dream will unfortunately never come true for classic Amigas.  Not even for those equipped with PPC accels.
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2007, 01:18:47 AM »
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I think he's talking about paying someone to port it to AmigaOS.

And, no, the dream will unfortunately never come true for classic Amigas.  Not even for those equipped with PPC accels.


Being open source, the code is availiable for someone to have a go at porting it right now. Instead, as the OP kindly pointed out, doing so wouldn't generate any money, hence nobody in the community is interested.
 

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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2007, 02:28:22 AM »
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I think there are still a lot more Amiga users that would buy good programs than Vic20 users.


Go here and say that. I dares ya! :lol:
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2007, 03:07:43 AM »
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Nah, I paid $$ for Amiga Explorer.

There are a ton of things for the Amiga that people would pay for.




I agree.  While there may not be huge numbers of active Amiga users out there any longer, the ones that remain are  tenacious and dedicated; and also blessed with a lot of spendable income.  People who wantonly and enthusiastically drop $800-900+ without even blinking, on used CyberstormPPC and BlizzardPPC accelerators, are not going to hesitate to pay for quality software when/if it ever becomes available. Guesstimating I'd say there are probably a few thousand "active" Amigans out there.  I have no illusions about this but I, for one, would love to see some quality new programs written for the Amiga.  And I wouldn't hesitate for a second to buy them, either. Assuming they were available (OS4?).      
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2007, 03:58:03 AM »
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Re: What is sad about Amiga
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 24, 2007, 04:53:52 AM »
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amigadave wrote:
I think there are still a lot more Amiga users that would buy good programs than Vic20 users.


Go here and say that. I dares ya! :lol:


Look at their numbers and it speaks for itself.  Total members = less than 800, most visitors ever online at the same time 45.  The numbers here are much higher than that and there are several other Amiga sites with users that prefer their sites to Amiga.org (I can't understand why?), so there are probably a few hundred Amiga users above the number of visitors/members here.

I would guess that there are probably about 1,500 to 3,500 Amiga users world wide that are interested in buying new, or updated Amiga software.

Not a huge market, but if someone were to code a good program that 90% of the remaining Amiga users would be willing to purchase, the programmer(s) could probably make between $20,000 to $60,000 for their trouble.

The sad thing about the Amiga at the moment is that almost all of our programmers have left to work on Windows programming and some have left to pursue Linux.  There are very few programmers working on Amiga specific programs now.

One of the greatest things about the Amiga 20 years ago, was that everyone wanted to write programs for it and there was such a wealth of new programs, commercial, shareware, and freeware available new each month, if not each week.  Not all of them were great programs, but the shear number of programs available was astounding and inspiring.

I hope this trend turns around and we get a few more people that start programming for the Amiga, just because it is fun, not for great profits.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)