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Offline Zorro

I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« on: June 10, 2003, 12:04:40 PM »
I like the new os4 screenshots...

the grey and metal brushed look is ok, the font engine is almost perfect, almost all the gadgets are good and the gradients are very nice.

But... you should expect it ! :-) A little lovely question ! :-D :-D

I would know if the icons, the gadgets and the other elements that aren't anti-aliased in the shots will be
smoothed so to reach a real consistent overall look ?

Hyperion ? Graphic designers ? Anyone ?

@ all

What do you like or not like from the actual shots ?


Alessandro
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Offline mikeymike

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2003, 12:12:53 PM »
I guess a valid discussion point here is "should icons be anti-aliased?".  The primary purpose of an icon is to stand out as a usable part of the interface, not a work of art, IMO.  Of course it should look good though.

I quite like all the screenshots for OS4.  The default theme is good enough for a default theme, that's all that's really needed.

Offline Warface

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2003, 12:23:34 PM »
It's not only about anti-aliasing. RGBA icons enable partial/full transparency of the image.

As an example: the MOS icon has a shadow, while the busy pointer has a white glow. Both is a simple RGBA image.

With RGBA icons the GlowIcons may have REAL glow :-)
 

Offline Zorro

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2003, 12:40:22 PM »
If I remember right I have recalled to have read somewhere that the icon technology of AmigaOS, in its actual state, don't let to do big improvements... :-(
(max 256 color ?)

@ mikeymike:

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I guess a valid discussion point here is "should icons be anti-aliased?".


Well, I think so, at least if we want obtain a true consistent look... certain elements of the GUI are smoothed and others not. I like the glowicons but hope that they can be anti-aliased also if the look will be the same of today.

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Offline Zorro

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2003, 12:45:01 PM »
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With RGBA icons the GlowIcons may have REAL glow


I will cross my 37 fingers  then...  ;-)
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Offline Mad-Matt

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2003, 12:48:19 PM »
Sound like going for the WinXP Colortype look, ,which is no bad thing . ;)
 

Offline Zorro

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2003, 03:16:02 PM »
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by Mad-Matt on 2003/6/10 13:48:19

Sound like going for the WinXP Colortype look, ,which is no bad thing . ;)


Aargh !  AmigaXP !!!

Nooooooooooooooo !!!!!  ;-)

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Offline Warface

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2003, 03:22:48 PM »
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Zorro wrote:
If I remember right I have recalled to have read somewhere that the icon technology of AmigaOS, in its actual state, don't let to do big improvements... :-(
(max 256 color ?)


Just as MOS replaced this system one day OS4.X will replace it too. Having a 256 color pen system in 2003 ain't that cool.
 

Offline Calen

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2003, 03:38:38 PM »
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AmigaXP !!!

Thats not even funny as a thought, now go get some strong soap and wash your mouth out, repeat until sickness kicks in

 :-)
 

Offline amigamad

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2003, 03:41:21 PM »
but who wants icons to look any better than they do now i like how they look in os 3.9 and os4 screenshots  why use any extra resources to make them a work of art even the icons on my pc are fine and there only use is to run a program so making them look better to me is not worth it.??? :-)
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Offline xeron

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2003, 03:49:04 PM »
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I would know if the icons, the gadgets and the other elements that aren't anti-aliased in the shots will be
smoothed so to reach a real consistent overall look ?


There isn't much point in "antialiasing icons", since they are bitmap images as apposed to vector images. If the icon system supported alpha-channel, the icons could be properly antialiased by the artist.

I don't see any reason why border gadgets, and other system vector images can't be antialiased, though.
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Offline mikeymike

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2003, 06:34:03 PM »
I agree with what people have said about transparency though, that is useful/nice.

Offline zudobug

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2003, 07:17:18 PM »
As a joke someone posted a workbench 1.3 screen in one of the OS4 screenshots news items.

If I get OS4 and someone makes that skin, I'd probably use it just for comic effect :-)

That tells you something about how much I care about the look of it. I tend to agree that functionality is what I'm after. GUI effects like transparency are nice, but I'll spend most of my time browsing the web or coding. Focusing on what I'm doing rather than how I'm doing it.

I think the look of the OS will evolve as people start to develope software for it and more is known about what it can do and the direction people wish to take it in. What I've seen so far looks like an excellent starting point.
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Offline Housey

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but... shame about the icons...
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2003, 07:24:05 PM »
I agree the icons are an issue for me after seeing the screenshots.  Its not that they aren't AA or anything, its the fact that its a new version of the OS with icons from the last 68K version.

However I have a feeling that Hyperion have things undercontrol and hopefully these won't be the default icons.  :-?
 

Offline Zorro

Re: I like the new os4 screenshots but...
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2003, 07:58:26 PM »
@ zudobug

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That tells you something about how much I care about the look of it. I tend to agree that functionality is what I'm after. GUI effects like transparency are nice, but I'll spend most of my time browsing the web or coding. Focusing on what I'm doing rather than how I'm doing it.


I am not a GUI candy lover but if you can smooth the fonts and some gadgets, why can't you complete the job with all other elements of the GUI ?

At least to reach a omogeneus look... this is my point.

Anyway all of us take functionality at first place... or we had left the amiga world many years ago...  :-)

Alpha channel, save us all !!!

 ;-)
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