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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #119 from previous page: May 03, 2003, 11:34:57 PM »
I personally, didn't and will not, ever, attack Hyperion.
I did attack Amiga Inc MANY times and I will continue
till the truth is totally out.
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #120 on: May 03, 2003, 11:42:57 PM »
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2. Where can I find information on the Q-Box which I understand is the heart of MorphOS?


I'd like to know about this too, I presume it's possible to write stuff for Quark directly instead of the AmigaOS clone-API's?


Read this:
morphos  in detail

It explains the current situation with Quark and Q-Box.


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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #121 on: May 03, 2003, 11:43:39 PM »
You don't realize that we came fro the Amiga grounds.
Most of us are angry with Amiga Inc, some were ####ed
by them.
I'm still interested in OS4 and Hyperion, but I want everyone
to know THE TRUTH about Amiga Inc.
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #122 on: May 03, 2003, 11:49:08 PM »
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but I want everyone to know THE TRUTH about Amiga Inc.


The truth is out, the bastards have been exposed, it is only a certain site which is still trying to hide the truth and even still continues with that nonsense ASK LIAR FLEECY Q&A.

 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #123 on: May 03, 2003, 11:51:48 PM »
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ASK LIAR FLEECY Q&A.


Well, his name says it all really.

For the benefit of none Brits, to "Fleece" someone is to obtain something (usually money) by deception/dishonest methods.

Nuff said really.............
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #124 on: May 03, 2003, 11:58:08 PM »
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Read this:
morphos in detail

It explains the current situation with Quark and Q-Box.


PLEASE NOTE: This shall be moving to a proper home soon so don't bookmark it.


Thanks, no documented API's yet then?  I think it would be cool to implement a B-Box (as well as the A-Box and Q-Box), with the BeOS API's in MorphOS similar to the B.E.OS effort on the Linux kernel.  Maybe even a C-Box in the future (Carbon/Cocoa )   :-D
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2003, 12:25:02 AM »
So there's NO q-box yet?! How is Morphos at release 1.0 then...?

When's the q-box going to be working then because it was my main interest in MorphOS?

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2003, 02:11:39 AM »
If Genesi owned the Amiga IP, for me that wouldnt change a thing. I've been wanting to get re-inquanted with AmigaOS for many years now, and like the rest of you, i've been waiting for that new elusive Amiga. Im not talking about hardware, im talking about AmigaOS. And im not talking about the name, im talking about the code base that OS3.1 and all those before it gave us. So, the operating system which Hyperion is developing (no matter what name it has) is the OS for me, and im guessing for many folks...

BTW - from what i see above, this doesnt mean genesi would own the Amiga IPs, just means that they'll be able to use some of them right? Not including the AmigaOS ones. So while pegasos may be an Amiga, you cant say it runs AmigaOS (morphos).

Anyway, for present and past users who know a little bit about the situation, the name is meaningless!!!
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2003, 09:36:51 AM »
Hi, most of these discussions are academic, but as we have mentioned in another thread you can make your own comparison starting...

At Tain l'Hermitage: HERE and here...

At WOASE: HERE and here...

In Aachen: HERE and here...

...and in Sweden (twice) and Italy too.  :-)

But, we did not see "them" HERE at CES 2003 in Las Vegas or HERE at CeBIT 2003 in Hannover.  We did not even see them HERE in Poland or HERE in Spain or even HERE in Finland !!!     :-o   Maybe, we will see them HERE this week -- who knows?!  :-?

Anyway, we are really happy to be coming to AmiWest.  It's a peice of  CAKE for us, because we are planning to have FUN!  And, by the way, if you don't like that then you can try one of THESE and even better one of THESE !!!  But, most of all we hope you come to AmiWest so you can try ONE OF THESE, just like THEY DID  :-)  !!!

Anyway, we are headed THERE, so come join the TEAM, if you see what we mean and just stop by to say "Hi!" to give it a TRY !!!  

Yeehaw!  We are headed WEST!  AmiWest that is!!!  Maybe there you will better understand what we would do...;-)

Signed, the WHOLE GENESI TEAM!!!  :-D

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2003, 10:46:02 AM »
Bill, i know you mean well, but is it necessary to repeat your messages in every thread ?
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2003, 11:05:50 AM »
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catohagen : Bill, i know you mean well, but is it necessary to repeat your messages in every thread ?

LOL - Like a hundred others don't repeat basically the same things over and over (and over, yet) - and for many more than two posts! ; }

Anyway, it was a good post! : }
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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2003, 11:12:50 AM »
Well Cato that is sort of our job...;-)

We posted this quote from Jack Welsh the old CEO of General Electric yesterday.  He was speaking about Clausewitz:  "Strategy was not a lengthy action plan. It was the evolution of a central idea through continually changing circumstances."

We are just trying to get the central idea across (through continually changing circumstances); that is, there is a future in the Pegasos and MorphOS.  We are on the march! (so to speak  ;-)  )

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill   :-)

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #131 on: May 04, 2003, 12:04:07 PM »
Hi Bill, could you answer my previous questions in this thread?

1. Why do you not want to get an AOS4 licence and put an end to this no AOS4 on Pegasos nonsense?

2. When is the Q-Box to be completed and what version of Morphos will include it?

And a new one:

3. When will the Trance JIT emulation for MorphOS be ready?

Thanks,
Ian  :-D
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2003, 12:21:17 PM »
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amimonkey wrote:
.. ..end to this no AOS4 on morphos nonsense?



Well that IS nonsense .....  :-D

Or maybe ....
Do a port of MOL to MOS, and than run OS4 in it ?

Not that that would make any sense, but wouldn't it still be cool ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #133 on: May 04, 2003, 12:27:32 PM »
Heheh yeah - sorry about that! :-)

Post corrected!  :-D

Ian
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #134 on: May 04, 2003, 12:59:23 PM »
Hi Ian, before it might have made since.  Now it does not.  We do not need OS4 or any of the trademarks.  We have our own "brand" now.  We want to promote this and this is our #1 focus.  For your information, the last serious conversation (if you can call it that) we had with Bill McEwen was in June 2001.  Bill wanted $20/unit license fee and a $100,000 up front payment, plus a dongle and we had to do all the work!  We said forget it and the rest is history.  We spoke briefly to Fleecy again face to face in London in April 2002.  At this point we understood the effort to combine the efforts was totally futile.  We decided to eliminate any cross-pollenation whatsoever.  We did.

In the meanwhile, we legally purchased a few hundred copies of OS 3.9 which if we wanted to we could bundle with the Pegasos -- just to put an Amiga label on the package.  Alternatively, we could have made a deal with Cloanto...this would have done the job too.  In the end, we decided against both approaches.

When OS4 is done we can analyse the situation then, but our inclination is that we do not have the time to do this.  Hyperion can do it if they want to.  They will need an installed base of users to sell their product.  The Pegasos "Community" could be a potential market for them.

For us, OS4 is no different than any flavor of Linux, BeOS or BSD.  To tell you the truth, NewOS is the most interesting of all of them.  Anyway, we will support Hyperion when they are ready.  The people that made what they are using now are part of Genesi, so eventually it would not surprise us if everyone is happy and gets along someday...

As to the other questions...the Q-Box is a long term development (years), but that will not stop someone from partitioning their hard drive and running multiple operating systems.  There are options already.  Some JIT works now and the Pegasos will do more things as time goes on.  Any good OS is "alive."  There is never a final product -- just evolution and hopefully improvement.

Hope that answers your question.

Sincerely,

Raquel and Bill