Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!

[sgm]

@JurassicCamper

Thank you for *your opinion*, but that's not what I was asking for. BTW, no need to get *that* angry, man... after all, it's just software and hardware  ;-)

Again,  this is a plain and simple, no troll, request for a public press release about OS4 launch.

[Radfoo]

JurassicCamper wrote:

When will the A1XE's ship ? .... Ask hyperion they are writing U-Boot. It was supposed to be finished last week but thats holding up the A1 delivery.

Where did you get the info about U-Boot? I thought it was already finished (from last info from Eyetech).

[Rogue]

JurassicCamper wrote:

New Artica S Revision

End of Jan "Some might Roll over into February"

Never Materialised

Wrong. I have that on my desk since weeks. Stop making things up.

Reason....U-Boot for the End user XE's isn't even finished.

Wrong. Stop making things up.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong and you have given the final code to alan to get the roms burn't.

I hereby correct you. Stop making things up. If you don't know what you are talking about (and this is quite obviously the case here) why bother to post at all? And most of all, why post as if it where facts, as if you knew these?

with a few buggy OS4 Modules.

OS 4 modules aren't buggy. Stop making things up.

[Radfoo]

Rogue wrote:

Wrong. I have that on my desk since weeks. Stop making things up.

Hi Rogue,

Has the version of UBoot for the XE's been given the ok?

[sgm]

@Rogue

Thanks for the corrections.
Ok, well, erm...  :-D  Care to answer the question?

[DaveP]

@sgm

Silence is aqueiscence or something. Wheres my dictionary?

[sgm]

@DaveP

So, you mean that the answer is YES (we'll launch OS4 at CeBIT).
Well, I guess I won't be able to get any better answer than this. :-(
/methinks If my company were to act like this, we'd get bankrupt in a year or less... oh, well.

[JurassicCamper]

Wrong. I have that on my desk since weeks. Stop making things up.

I'm not making things up. Just putting into my own words what i read. If it has been finished for weeks then why did alan say on the 25/02/2003 that he was still waiting for the final version to get the roms blown.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong and you have given the final code to alan to get the roms burn't.

I hereby correct you.

Thank you for pointing out is is finished. And if it has been finished for weeks, then the boards should be shipping by now right ? :-?  :-?  :-?

[MarkTime]

@Rogue

Your response was less than helpful.
If you don't have anything to say, why post?

Just to harass already over frustrated amigans?

btw, the main point of his post was ENTIRELY CORRECT.  Promise for Christmas, then January, then February...nows its march...

[sgm]

@MarkTime

(sigh!) Again, this is no trolling and/or flamebait. Just a request for a public statement.
Don't be frustrated: in 8 days we'll definitely know, either from Hyperion or from anybody else...  :nervous:

[JurassicCamper]

8 Days togo.....

Better pull your finger out and put in a bit of overtime.

Everbody has their limits on how long they will keep believing $#!+€ like  this.

With the AmigaOne now shipping and AmigaOS4.0 in its final stages of development and testing, the time has come to begin letting the rest of the world know the good news, that the Amiga is alive, well and ready to let the World have fun with computing again.

We all know that the current hard core of Amiga users is not enough to build a sustainable and thriving community. We have to appeal to those who, for whatever reason left the Amiga months and years ago but who still retain a fondness for their old platform. Whether disillusioned with their existing offering, looking for a new way or simply wanting to return, the marketing for the reborn Amiga must concentrate itself on these people, the five million or so who once owned an Amiga and who could do so once more.

The last six months has seen us experimenting with presence at various multi-format shows and nuturing relationships with TV, web and paper publications in order to test the waters and to set out our stall for the big push forwards. Even in this informal process, the response has been fantastic, whether in the US, the UK, Europe or Australia. People remember the Amiga and want it back.

We have taken all this research and, in conjunction with Amiga developers, retailers, user groups, publications, Amiga Inc, Eyetech and Hyperion have decided that we will concentrate on four official large scale multi-format shows around the globe, in order to maximise our presence, message and exposure. This will compromise a show roughly every quarter, one for Europe, one for the US and Canada, one for the UK and one for the Antipodes (Australia, New Zealand and Asia).

The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March (and before anyone asks, this does not mean this is the release date for AmigaOS4.0, it means that CeBit will be the public launch of it). With the huge exposure and attendence that CeBit brings in, and being in Germany, one of the spiritual homes of the Amiga, we think this an appropriate and exciting venue.

In addition we will support several other important national shows on a cooperative basis with the dealers, user groups and organisations in those countries. Commitments have already been given to attend the SINTEP show in Toulouse, France in April 2003, and at least one of the Micromart shows in Birmingham, UK.

We will also support local dealers and organisers of the main Amiga user group shows worldwide (subject to fitting in with the schedule of the larger shows above) such as the Alt-WoA and WoA-SE shows in the UK, as well as the main shows in France, Germany, the USA and Canada. If you currently - or would like to - organise such a show during 2003 and would like Amiga Inc, and/or Hyperion and/or Eyetech to attend please contact us as soon as early as possible during the planning stage. Given the limited resources we all have, and the cost and complexity of planning for the quarterly shows, we cannot guarantee attendence but we will do our best to support the community wherever it gets together to enjoy the Amiga platform.

So much for 2003 - what about the remainder of 2002, and in particular the Aachen show? We have all, both as individual companies and together, thought long and hard about this show. However decided that the timing could not be worse from all our respective points of view. Eyetech is committed to delivering the Earlybird systems for Christmas that week and Amiga Inc is fully occupied fulfilling an AmigaAnywhere contract, and product launch. Whilst visiting with all of you is important, we believe that it is more important to ship products right now, and we simply can not work the show into our schedules.

We wanted to share this with you because many in the community have asked the same questions that we have asked ourselves. How will the community grow and thrive? It can only do so through increased sales, and that means increased awareness. As we move from survival mode to growth mode, the small, local shows, however much fun cannot provide this level of exposure and awareness. By marching proudly and strongly into the mainstream shows, and taking the community with us, we are announcing that we are back, once and for all.

Have no doubt that after 8 years of darkness, 2003 will be the year that the Amiga once again makes the World remember that there is a better way.

Thank you, as ever, for your continued support and commitment.

Bill McEwen and the team at Amiga
Ben Hermans, Hyperion
Alan Redhouse, Eyetech

20-11-2002

[MarkTime]

@sgm

That isn't trolling or flamebait....it isn't even close.  Its quite polite, and it was direct and to the point.

If you had first asked Rogue to stop trolling and issuing flamebait, then I would have respected you for having a consistent approach.

But since you didn't, its fairly obvious that you use accusations of trolling/flamebait as a debate technique to shut down opposing viewpoints.

I don't find it persuasive.

In 8 days, we will know that another 8 days have past, and we can always look at things in hindsight with perfect clarity...so what...

[sgm]

@MarkTime

I didn't make myself clear: I am consistently trying to persuade Hyperion folks that *my request* for a public statement is not a flamebait, because I think that we'll get no answer unless Rogue and collegues can believe our true intentions. So you were not the target of my post, sorry if that was not clear enough.

On a side note, I have a hard time rating  your post "quite polite", otherwise correct and "quite to the point".

[asian1]

Hello
If they are SERIOUS about the CeBit Launch, at least they should announce which stand will be used by Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc, Hyperion and Eyetech ARE NOT registered on CeBit website.

Without the announcement, visitors and buyers cann't find their stand in the large exhibition (thousands of companies and stands).

Usually a company prepare and register their stand and products at least 1 week before the important exhibition.

Will they exhibit the product on Microsoft, Motorola, IBM or other companies' stand?

[MarkTime]

@sgm

Thank you for your clarification.

And I stand corrected.  The post was 'civil', not 'polite'.

Usually I try to be careful with words, especially since with the international audience...I know its hard enough to learn english as a second language, I could at least use the correct words.....

[sgm]

@MarkTime

No problem. English is just my third language.  :-D