AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program

[Varthall]

Yeah, 750 euro "deposit" to test a sub-par OS on a motherboard, that is for all intents and purposes, an a) over priced motherboard based on specs that the *DEVELOPERS* wanted and b) not what the general public, ie the Amiga community, wanted.

I'm still waiting to get my 50$ back on a coupon for an OS I couldn't use, for a motherboard that I couldn't justify spending a ton of money on. When are you people gonna learn?

This is disappointing, but gets better and better.........

What should people learn? That *you* cannot justify spending money on it? Why should this change if I should be interested on it or not?

varthall

[Varthall]

*One hundred* boards (I read somewhere that it's actually half(!) of their planned initial production volume since they have ordered 200 CPU's) *sold* to consumers (but: "Note that you will NOT be considered an end-user if you are allowed into the betatest program"), with a hefty *750 EUR prepayment*(!! Do they never learn?), for a product still lacking the necessary onboard hardware drivers (OS4 USB drivers has been "almost working" for how many years now?).

The OS4 USB drivers has been working for years!

If what they wanted would have been some help with beta testing, they could have provided a select few handfuls of competent "power users" with the product (by lending it to them, or giving it to them as a reward for their beta testing work), and the link to the bugzilla tracker, and they would be done! They probably already have a list of people they could have turned to since before.

And those people will be the one who will probably respond to the announce.

This is nothing but a 75,000+ EUR fundraiser targeted to the broad public. They obviously need money (which is a bit troublesome in my eyes). So they sell their undeveloped thing by prepayment and the condition that you won't be treated as a consumer, you sign away your right to complain about the product, and they can sue you if you still do it in public. What a scheme...

And you have the possibility to get a machine *now*, help the development of OS4 and get the latest OS4 features before the other normal users do.

Varthall

[Varthall]

Their initial production run is probably *less* than 200 (it's more likely to be *100 tops*, at least if they actually get one hundred people to pre-pay, which I kind of doubt). Then it will probably be followed by another 2x50 or 100 some time after that. If the market for 1,500+ EUR obscure HW hasn't been saturated by then...

What they said was they have ordered 200 processors, and they are obviously not going to build motherboards without CPU's fitted since the board is designed around a highly integrated SoC CPU's. The direction? Well, try searching amigaworld.net, IIRC that's the place the number came from. I can't remember if it was Trevor Dick or Ben Hermans that provided the number. Probably Dick.

I also can't find on amigaworld.net the statement you have mentioned...

Varthall

[Varthall]

What should people learn?

Simple economics and free enterprise. I'm assuming that you do know the difference between "supply" and "demand".

What you mentioned is that people should learn about the general public/the Amiga community not wanting the motherboard (which is not true, since there has been a market for AmigaOnes and Sams, and people are showing interest on the X1000) and that you couldn't justify spending money for it. Hence I question why people should learn about it.

That *you* cannot justify spending money on it?

I'm not the only one apparently. 1500 euros is a lot to spend on an "updated" machine that is still light years behind my main machine, which is by PC standards, now "antiquated". MorphOS got it right with the Efika (and it was still a POS mobo) and then with porting to the Mac Mini. Why? Cheap, readily available hardware.

You have your reasons for not liking that machine, and your view shared by other people in the community, but that doesn't mean it must be for everyone as you implied.

PPC is dead as a desktop platform. *EVERYONE*knows that the eventual migration of the AmigaOS would naturally progress to the X86 platform. The longer they wait, they more potential end users they lose.

It's all about mathematics...... not rocket science.....

I think that *EVERYONE* knows that not all the people think the same, that not everyone would like to see an x86 migration and that PPC could still be a viable niche platform. This is mathematics as well :-)

I never said it did, nor should it, but tell me why you're getting all butt-hurt for me stating the blatantly obvious??? :lol:

I'm not hurt in any way, but anyway you said it:
"not what the general public, ie the Amiga community, wanted."
And you said it again now, saying that it's blatantly obvious :-)

Varthall