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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: Schoenfeld on December 17, 2005, 02:17:36 AM
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Keyrah makes keyboards of classic computers available to new computers. The board fits the case of a C64, VIC-20, C128, C-16 or Amiga 1200, and turns the computer into a USB keyboard. Keyrah gives new life to defective computers, or computers that have been moved to a different case, because the mainboard is no longer needed. In addition to that, two digital joysticks can be connected that will act as additional keys (for example cursor keys). The joystick ports show a special strength of Keyrah: The high data transfer speed.
We followed the discussion about a newly produced USB-version of a classic joystick with great interest. Many customers have judged this joystick as unusable, because the reaction to any movement is too inert, thus making games unplayable. For the full gaming fun, Keyrah transfers it's data ten times faster than the USB version of that joystick!
As a special titbit for fans of the C64, we're using a switch that's almost identical to the one of the original computer. The only difference (not noticable to the user) is that it's lead-free, and therefore RoHS-conform. It switches between two keymaps that are either adjusted to the daily use under Windows, or especially for emulators like Vice (http://www.viceteam.org) and Amiga Forever (http://www.amigaforever.com/).
Keyrah has been successfully tested with all common operating systems like Linux, Amiga OS, Mac OS and Windows. It works on desktop and laptop computers, but also on the X-Box. Keyrah is a standard USB human interface device, so proper function is also ensured with systems that are not mentioned here.
Keyrah will be available in february 2006, the price will be about 30,- EUR. The exact scope of delivery is not yet decided, we're investigating the possibilty to include a USB cable and tools for this price, so we can deliver a package that our customers are used to: Ready to go without additional equuipment.
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cool but i dont realy see the point. O sorry if you are all in to retro gaming i might get it
adonay :-D
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hugh!?!? What is this?
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Nevermind, I was almost excited....
...it's rubbish, at least for a minimalist like myself.
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I like it. Jens makes cool toys.
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this is cool now you can fit a mini pc inside a dead c64 breadbin and hook up the keys to it... :-D
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Yes, very cool...but I think I'd much rather have preferred seeing first the proposed 68030+ram accelerator for the A600 :(
@adonay
Maybe this will produce a run on c128 and c64 cases on ebay? Put this in a case with a mini-itx pc and run Amiga Forever and you've got a powerful little Amiga. Somehow the thought of ripping out a 128 or 64 m/b seems sacrilege.
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Jen's
Let me see if I get this right.
I have a 42 Plasma TV and a small PC attached for playing games, including Amiga Forever. This board will go inside the empty A1200 case I have left over from towering my A1200 and allow me to basically use this as a USB keyboard to run WinUAE on the PC using the original A1200 keyboard? Also, the ports on the side will allow real digital joysticks to be attached?
So I can put this keyboard that looks like an A1200 on my coffee table, attach an old Amiga joystick to the ports, connect it to the PC under the TV with a long USB cable and play Menace or Alien Breed with the feel of "the real thing"?
Put me down for one!
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In fact, I have an old VIC-20 and C64. One of them would make a good keyboard for a PC C64 emulator. Better put me down for 2.
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Thank you very much, Jens! for your constant support :-)
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Jens! You are the Man!
This is ultra cool! Now WinUAE will feell more Amiaish indeed.......cuz you will be controlling it from the Amiga! cool!
Also as one suggessted, we can put a mini PC inside an Amiga case and it will be as a real AMiga being controlled by the A1200 keyboard..or better yet the A600! Man! I can imagine running a PC inside my 600 with a copy of Amiga Forever! it doesnt get any better!
its like a new motherboard if you anyone has an imagination.
I hope I am right about my assumption.but when I read this:
" In addition to that, two digital joysticks can be connected that will act as additional keys (for example cursor keys). The joystick ports show a special strength of Keyrah: The high data transfer speed."
Wouldnt it be better than instead of the Joystick or in addition to the joystick acting as extra keys, that it actually acts as Real Joysticks ort 1 and 2 for WinUAE? if the board doesnt do this....please make it do this. And it will be complete.
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" In addition to that, two digital joysticks can be connected that will act as additional keys (for example cursor keys). The joystick ports show a special strength of Keyrah: The high data transfer speed."
Wouldnt it be better than instead of the Joystick or in addition to the joystick acting as extra keys, that it actually acts as Real Joysticks ort 1 and 2 for WinUAE? if the board doesnt do this....please make it do this. And it will be complete.
I've just been looking at WinUAE and VICE because I've never bothered emulating a digital joystick on WinUAE before, and from what I gather, this board will be perfect.
That switch on the side appaently switches between two keymaps. So , you have one mapped for PC use and another for when you run UAE. If I understand it correctly, you should be able to plug a digital joystick into, for example, port 2 on this card and then set the keymap so that joystick2 left = keypad 4, joystick2 right = keypad 6, joystick2 up = 8, etc. Then you can go into the UAE "input" configuration and set the keyboard settings so that keypad 4 = joystick2 left, keypad 6 = joystick 2 right, etc. Once you've saved these setting, a joystick plugged into that port should behave under UAE like a digital joystick plugged into port 2 on a real Amiga.
There's a similar setup for the C64/128/+4/VIC20 emulations under VICE.
At least, that's how I understand it. I look forward to testing it. :-)
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What's all this talk about putting small PC motherboards in C64 cases and running UAE, my 1st thoughts were would a microA1 board fit inside the case, I could run OS4 on my C64 :idea:
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Oh man, this is a neat product!!
Let's see.. PC with Catweasel MK4(with SID chip installed), this Keyrah in a breadbox C64 keyboard and running Frodo. Hmm.. Real sid sound, real breadbox keyboard and real old school joysticks. Pretty damn neat. This open some possibility to me. Hmm.. I can imagine using this with some micro-ATX board installed in some old C= case..
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ok i think i will try this project i will get a mini itx with 1.4ghz cpu some ram UAE and a a1200 case .also internal psu could be a cool project.
@redrumloa
no offence but i thought you left this forum for sure good to see your still breathing:evilgrin:
adonay :-D
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hmmm, will an A1200 keyboard fit in an A500 case? I just have A500's here... would definitly be neat too! Anyway, will there be enough spare A1200 keyboards available for all the people who got inspiration? :-?
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@adonay
Naah, I didn't leave AO. I just haven't been around much for a while. I've been playing with my C= 8bit goodies in my spare time.
I'm glad I'm still breathing too ;-)
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Just check out the Amiga on eBay forum. There have been a few postings lately that may be of use.
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I wonder if the USB keyboard would work in a USB->PS2 adapter on a real Amiga?
Hmmm, A1200 keyboard -> USB -> PS2 -> Keyboard interface -> A1200 :crazy:
Would the keys map properly if I did this?
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moto
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Would the keys map properly if I did this?
well i dont see why it wouldent work,
adonay :-D
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I hope things like the Help, DEL and Amiga keys would work properly after being mapped from Amiga -> PC -> Amiga.
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moto
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This will be even more fun when WUSB takes off. :-)
I don't entirely get the bit about the USB joystick latency, though; I've used generic USB (digital) gamepads on PCs without noticing any trouble -- does the one model in question have a glitch, or does sharing the keyboard HID pipe(?) bypass a 'flaw' in the standard in general?