Amiga - It Outlived Them All...

[Tempest]

No, I asked for websites with comparable traffic that are *not* Atari console websites.   For instance, where is the Atari ST website with comparable traffic to Amiga.org ?  If it exists, let me know.

Did you even bother to go to these sites, they are mostly about 8bit Atari home computers and NOT about consoles.

[Franko]

GEEEEEZUZ! to you too, you claimed I post there which I don't. Now be quiet and reread again what you wrote.

Fur Gawds sake why you gotta bring GEEEEEZUZ into this now...

Poor bloke got nailed to a big lump of wood to save sinners like you, you know, show a bit of respect for Christies sake...

[Tempest]

OK, whatever.... so what you're saying is that you read Franko's posts on other forums but you don't post there. K.......

Yes, is it wrong to visit forums and not post there? I've got better things to do. Now just admit you where wrong or prove I post on said forums.

[Franko]

Did you even bother to go to these sites, they are mostly about 8bit Atari home computers and NOT about consoles.

I did, but there was no-one home...

[Tempest]

Fur Gawds sake why you gotta bring GEEEEEZUZ into this now...

Poor bloke got nailed to a big lump of wood to save sinners like you, you know, show a bit of respect for Christies sake...

As you may have noticed (but conveniantly overlooked) I didn't start with the GEEEEEZUZ stuff.

[Franko]

Yes, is it wrong to visit forums and not post there, I've got better things to do. Now just admit you where wrong or prove I post on said forums.

You do post on MooBummy, told you I've smelt you there before and that's all the proof I need...

PS:That's a bit of a dumb thing to say "I've got better things to do" while your talking about visiting MooBummy...

[Franko]

As you may have noticed (but conveniantly overlooked) I didn't start with the GEEEEEZUZ stuff.

I didn't "conveniantly overlook" it, I deliberately overlooked it cos I like Gizmo350 and I don't like you, there's a big difference you know...

[Tempest]

You do post on MooBummy, told you I've smelt you there before and that's all the proof I need...

Say's the proven Moobunny poster himself but that's not proof enough, please give me an example

PS:That's a bit of a dumb thing to say "I've got better things to do" while your talking about visiting MooBummy...

You may be right about that , every post with a Franko in it is a waste of time...

Damn...

See I can use meaningless smilies too in every sentence I post if I want to

[Tempest]

I didn't "conveniantly overlook" it, I deliberately overlooked it cos I like Gizmo350 and I don't like you, there's a big difference you know...

Oh dear me

[Franko]

You may be right about that , every post with a Franko in it is a waste of time... Damn...

See I can use meaningless smilies too in every sentence I post if I want to

Oh the irony... :lol: it hurts so much from laughing at you... :roflmao:

The guy or gal who claims he/she has "better things to do with his/her time" but is too dumb to realise even after just saying it, that he/she is quite happy wasting his/her time to all these posts here with "Franko in it"... :roflmao:

Your not a schitzo by any chance...

[orb85750]

Did you even bother to go to these sites, they are mostly about 8bit Atari home computers and NOT about consoles.

In fact, I recognize some of them because I have visited in the past.  Lots of console stuff on there.  And what is the forum traffic like?

[Pentad]

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There's loads of new hardware and/or software for the following systems:

ZX 81 1981
ZX Spectrum 1982
ZX Spectrum+ 1984
ZX Spectrum 128 1985
Amstrad CPC 1984
Atari 400/800 1979
Atari 1200 XL 1982
Atari 65/130 XE 1985

I don't know about the other systems because I don't follow them closely but I suspect they are also pretty much alive.

*loads*?  Really??  Loads??  How many products in a load?  I'm not saying the Amiga is producing loads of software and hardware every year but I would bet it's more than these system you listed put together.

The Commodore 64 probably gets more updates than these.

The other poster here mentioned that Atari ST and they do get new hardware and software.  I don't think it's as much as the Amiga but that would have made your list a decent argument.

-P

[B00tDisk]

Retro-computing is what you find fun.  It isn't a contest.  I've had fun fixing up old PCs (my current projects are a Thinkpad I'm upgrading from a 333mhz to 650mhz CPU and a PII machine I'm going to turn in to the "ultimate 1998 gaming box" ), old Macintoshes, old whatevers.

[drHirudo]

I agree. The Amiga is the only retro computer that outlived the other retro computers of the 1980-ies and most of the 1990-ies. While there are new software released for Oric and Amstrad, this does not magically turn these machines into alive machines with strong community and new developments. I coded a CPM games two years ago, did this made the CPM alive? If some guy creates an hardware add-on for his Atari Falcon, this does not brings the Atari back to life.

As I use emulators on my Amiga, I have pretty good view of the various retro communities. Surely the Amiga is the most active of them all. While the C-64 is very strong, it is not as much strong as the Amiga. And the Amiga is still a decent useful machine, unlike the C-64 and the Atari ST. All the C-64, Vic-20, Speccy and Oric fans are using PCs or Mac to connect to the Internet and do serious work and post on these forums, while there are people who use their Amigas to post on the forums. I guess this makes the Amiga the only that outlive them all.

Additionally on the Amiga we have - OS wars - AmigaOS 3.9 vs AmigaOS 4.0 vs AROS vs MorphOS. Forum wars - Dammy vs Franko vs Jerkany etc.
Hardware wars - Sam460 vs Pegasos vs old Macs.
New complete hardware configurations - announced and even some of them released - Sam440, Sam460, Natami, AmigaOne X1000.
New versions of the OSes that are not opensourced.
New hardware peripherals for the old machines, created from companies that are on the Amiga market since decades (Individual computers).
Online stores where you can buy Amiga stuff brand new - AmiKit, Vesalia.
Online depositories where you can watch for new releases - Aminet, OS4Depot.net
Active daily updated news sites - Amiga-news.de, PPA.pl.
Bi-monthly paper magazine - Amiga Future.
Several very active forums - AmigaWorld.net, Amiga.org, EAB, LemonAmiga.
Active demoscene that competes with PC releases on main computer scene events.
Old greybeards who come to say hello to the community (Dave Haynie).
Haters - people who went PC long time ago that come to say how much advanced their new machine is compared to our antiques.
Enthusiasts - people who love to play with their Amigas over anything else.

While the other retro machines have some of the above, they are magnitudes smaller than the Amiga.

[ChaosLord]

Dr. Hirudo FTW!

+100!

[bloodline]

The Amiga would easily win "Twitchiest Corpse" or perhaps "Most Persistent Zombi" award