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Offline JamesTopic starter

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Eslapion and the Amigas that never were.
« on: March 30, 2007, 04:48:20 AM »
Hello all,

To follow suit on the Boogiegail thing... I might as well also warn you about Mr Eslapion, sadly one of the contributing members of this forum.

You may remember some weeks ago he was in a fit about trashing amigas because they were of no value to him and they were taking all this place and he couldn't stand it anymore. He "kindly" offered them for pick-up to anyone in the area...maybe thinking there wasn't anybody from Montreal on this forum.

Then he said that three people had contacted him and he would divide the loot between all three.

In any case.. I've contacted him by PM and he replied with his phone number saying to call him on the weekend to arrange this. So I replied to him saying I could call saturday, after lunch. Didn't get a reply on that one.

I called on saturday a little after lunch time. And he didn't knew what the hell I was talking about for like five minutes straight...not being very talkative and obviously very nervous when he did say a few words.

Turns out he doesn't have the Amigas, they aren't taking any place where he lives as previously mentioned. They are, suposedly, in some basement somewhere in town. When I asked when i could come by and picked them up (I had actually arranged for a lift on that afternoon...heh) he said "oh no no... no... we can't do that, not possible". When asked why he said he didn't have access to the basement in question.

So I pressed forward, asking if we could set this up for the following weekend (which would be this weekend). We agreed to arrange a meeting for this saturday, using this forum's PMs. A few PM later he told me to call him saturday. I replied to ask if he could confirm that it WOULD happen on saturday as this is my only day off for a while and if the boat ain't gonna float, I'll make other arrangments for my afternoon.

Well guess what. He "can't make it" for another three weeks. So I asked if I could get the number of the person who owns this place, and seemingly these Amigas.... sigh.... "No, there is no way he will let you in withtout me. Sorry this will have to wait". Actually english doesn't properly translate the very dry and not-too-gentle tone of the reply, but you get the point.

So all in all, I think he's a liar in need of a little attention. If he offers you something, or if you planned on doing business with him, do so with caution.

I presently work in fraud prevention, so I'm gonna run a little background check on the guy, yknow, just for kicks.
 

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Re: Eslapion and the Amigas that never were.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 05:56:01 AM »
First off, before this gets stupidly out of hands. I didn't "flame" you. I merely exposed the situation as I see it. Whether you have been dealing with a million people successfully or not is of no relevance to me. The attitude you've shown, especially the phone call you just made at my house at midnight, makes me think that you are not the kind of person I wish do deal with. Period. I am entitled to my opinion and have the right to express it. As you will notice from my post, I did say "I think he is a liar [...]" and not "He is a liar".

Second, after the phone call, and the threats you've made over the line, I feel I must clarify one point. When I say I'll run a background check on you, it has nothing to do with my actual work. It means that I've picked up a few skills working there and I can, in all legality, perform this check at home. I will not however, edit out the comment in my first post as I have nothing to hide and I am a good sport.

Third. You've managed, in five minutes over the phone, to insult me more times that I've been insulted in pretty much all my life. You have also threatened me, saying you would come to my house and such. I have asked numerous times that you calm down so I may place a few words and you did not. I had to hang up on you because this was going way to far. I am a very calm person, not very prone to outbursts verbal abuse. And as such I expect others to act the same way with me. If you have an issue about me stating what I feel are facts to people I have respect for and for whom I do not wish bad trades/sales/etc, well you are more than welcome to speak your piece. Albeit I will ask you to do so in a civilized manner.

Fourth, I could have waited another month for this 'deal'. It has nothing to do with me wanting them THIS SATURDAY absolutely. But your dry one-line replies just indicated me that it was probably not going to happen, hence me asking you to CONFIRM that it would happen this saturday. Your last one-liner reply sealed the deal for me, I do not want to deal with you, even for free computers.

What I have posted here, is not slandering of any kind. It is simply what I feel are the facts, expressed to others so that they may use their own judgement in dealing with you. If you feel so attacked, I can only ask you if the hat fits?

The fact that you do not want a stranger picking through your stuff without being there is wholly understandable. But from what you have said to me over the phone last saturday, I gathered that they were not yours at all, but rather someone else's and that you were selling them for him. Hence me asking for his/her phone number so I can arrange a meeting directly with the person. And again in your last post, you state it's your friend's store...so it's still pretty unclear whether these computers are yours or not.

If you used more than one line to reply to people, things would be much clearer for all parties involved. Getting your panties in a ball and threatening me over the phone however, is not the right way to get anything settled once the fit hits the shan.

What I did was in the better interest of the community here, much as is the boogiegail post. I am truly sorry you feel this way, and attacking you was not the intention. However your last post, and ever moreso your phone call, indicates, to me at least, that you are not capable of dealing with this like an adult. I will not delete my post as I do not feel I have stepped over the line, the admins may decide on that. I will not however continue this conversation with another post as it WILL get out of hand eventually and I'll have no part in that.

 

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Re: Eslapion and the Amigas that never were.
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 07:57:35 AM »
Ok I know said I wouldn't post again but this is too funny. How many times are you going to edit your posts like that? :D