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Offline AndyFC

Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2023, 05:36:54 PM »
Not everyone has a RPi in their sock drawer!

I do - it arrived today. I bought a 2GB 4B kit from Pimoroni (the PSU and case will come in handy for other applications), but they're now out of stock too. The moral of the story is to just keep trying reputable retailers for a Pi, and it'll be worth it.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2023, 06:45:24 PM »
Yeah Michal Schulz is the lead on the lite board
That would violate RHOS!!

But really, it’s Claude who made also the pistorm32 lite board.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2023, 07:24:13 PM »
Ha ha! It took me a moment to get that! ;D

But seriously maybe it's Michal doing the CM4 adapter board but he's definitely heavily involved! 
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2023, 12:27:49 AM »
@kolla

What did I say? That Michal is a trustworthy guy! CM4 adapter prototype boards are already in production!

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Offline kolla

Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2023, 06:01:01 AM »
@BozzerBigD
Of course he is - Emu68 is his, and yes, he’s come up with an adapter board for CM4 - not that these didn’t already exist, but the there’s a need for one that physically fits inside the A1200 case, with pistorm32 lite. Which is the work of Claude. There is also Pistorm without Emu68, and instead using Musashi 68k emulator running as a process under Linux on the pi, with lots of additional features developed in cooperation with Niklas from the A314 project. Such as filesharing, networking and more.

If you go to the nightly downloads of Emu68, you see two downloads - one for pistorm, and one for raspberry pi. The latter one is for running Emu68 on a “stand-alone” raspberry pi. The idea is that in time, AROS/68k will boot and run on this, without any amiga hardware attached. For now, Pistorm is the best platform for maturing Emu68, with all the software available.

And then there’s ARIX…
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2023, 07:49:43 AM »
For me, this is the most interesting project I've seen in a long while. I'm very much looking forward to putting some high octane 68K juice in the trapdoor of an A1200 wedge and having it connect to a modern flat panel with RTG. Preferably without melting anything.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2023, 09:29:03 AM »
@Karlos

Did you back-order a CM4 in preparation?
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2023, 10:22:35 AM »
Not yet. I'm probably going to regret it but I want to wait a bit until it's been in the hands of a few pioneers. I don't have the free time to be an early adopter these days.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2023, 11:21:20 AM »
Considering the CPC deliveries start in July for the CM4 if you order now I expect the beta tester "pioneers" will have ironed out most of the issues by then! Plus the CM4 is only £30 to £40!
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2023, 04:05:37 PM »
so it's a bit confusing to Raspberry Pi newbies but it seems that the way to go with PiStorm32-lite board being produced now is to wait for a CM4 when available and for this CM4 you also need to buy an adapter board which will fit on top of the PiStorm32-lite and w allow for cables to get to the rear of the 1200 AND will allow you to actually close the 1200 case...
is this correct?
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2023, 04:25:32 PM »
I think the larger RPis will fit "in a fashion" since RetroPassion IS selling prebuilt kits with the RPi3A+ so it's possible. However, the CM4 is a minature RPi4 spec board without the IO so will fit better. Claude has designed a neat IO port and cabling solution routing to the back of the A1200 case and Michal has designed an adapter board that both allows the IO cable to connect and provides an internal SD slot (for the EMU68 software) as well as providing a low profile way of attaching the CM4 to the 'lite' PiStorm32 model (we ideally would have got a 'full' version of the PiStorm32 board without the need for an adapter but the parts are unobtainable at the moment).

I view the CM4 solution as the ideal and think it'll fit in the A1200 better than the current RPi3A+ solution sold by RetroPassion and it will give more MIPS. If you have a spare full RPi in your sock drawer then I guess you just give it a go and see how well it fits otherwise go the CM4 route! Obviously, we're still at early doors and some testing still needs to be done with the incoming adapter prototype boards but I have faith that Michal/Claude will overcome any obstacles as they seem to know their stuff. Make sure you buy a lite version of the CM4 board to get SD card functionality on the adapter board and any more than a 2GB model is a waste (I went for a 1GB model). WiFi functionality is being worked on for the future (so get a WiFi model if that interests you) but all CM4s support ethernet, USB and HDMI.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2023, 09:51:39 AM »
Yes, but looking at the prototype board. Its going to run into same issues as normal Pi. It will have an even bigger footprint than a normal Pi.
Not intersted in this cables to back trapdoor and closing case nonsense. You can get wired to back trapdoor using extension cables etc etc.
I also damn sure, they wouldn't be selling it, if you could not close your wedge case.



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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2023, 05:27:53 PM »
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Its going to run into same issues as normal Pi. It will have an even bigger footprint than a normal Pi.

I can't see how you surmise that since all the extra IO ports on the full RPi boards which will use up space and hence block airflow are not present. The CM4 has been positioned as far back as possible on the design of the adapter board and the IO ports are then positioned at the back of the case on a separate module connecting the adapter board with just a ribbon cable! It makes perfect sense to wait for a CM4 if you don't own a RPi already. The RPi 4 boards are even harder to source (and at least £10 more expensive) and if used for the PiStorm have a lot of ports trapped within the case! Yes, you can trail extension cables out from them but it's a very ugly solution IMHO! 
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2023, 06:35:31 PM »
When you use Emu68, you just need one extension cable, for HDMI.
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2023, 12:00:13 PM »
Surely ethernet and USB will be supported too?
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Re: PiStorm Full and Lite Discussion
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 21, 2023, 02:20:46 PM »
Will you write the drivers needed?
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