individual Computers supports Commodore One project

[Chathurawind]

In a grander view:

Micro controlers are very popular in the hobiest market these days. Usually after a while the hobiest finds some reason to need bigger, better, faster. Moving up means something between a single processor with limited I/O functionality, and a full desktop, laptop, or hacking their palm pilot.

There is a nich market that is rapidly filling this hole. Full computers on a small board. What you got is a desktop computer with no slots, on a board smaller than a book. Video, serial, paralell, and usualy some spare IO.. maby instructions on point to point wiring an isa slot.

The problem here is that the more you get in a smaller package the more the cost. Prices start at about 200 or so and go up quickly the more functionality you add. Last time I checked IDE drives were not avail on a board for less then 200 in single quantities. Keep in mind, this is dos/linux only. 286-486 range with about 256k and maby 2 megs of flash.

With all the functionality added, options, and ease of use (A LOT of people remember programing on the C64/128) these boards might be a great alternative for small Kiosks, custom industrial automation where a bit of fancy graphics are nice, but a laptop is way too expensive and over powered. If marketed well (I.e not JUST to C64 hobiests, but to embeded systems designers as well) It could REALLY take off..

A micro ATX isnt all that large by the way. its about 10-12 inches square. Not to mention, if it sells well, smaller scale integration wouldnt be to difficult.

I work in a casino, and for anyone who has been to one, All those fancy video machines are "middle ground" systems. They even have sound chips that sound very much similar to SID.  All but the very newest are 68xx based cpus, running about the same speeds.

This really isnt as far fetched as it sounds from a purely technical standpoint. Very usefull in the Embeded market. And 200 dollars is cheap for the power you get.

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two cents from a guy with no name

[redrumloa]

Hey, if your made of money who wouldn't want an ATX C64 sat there with their others??

Sigh.... :-( I'll say one last time. THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A ATX VERSION OF THE C64. It's a whole new computer.

I could understand someone not being interest, but know exactly what it is first. And for $200, just add cheap ATX case, IDE harddrive, keyboard and mouse and it is a DAMN cheap hobby computer.

[Chathurawind]

ohh.. and dont forget mp3s...
mustn't forget mp3s!

Even in the sound chip cant handle it, the cpu can shuffle data at a high speed from the drive to an mp3 decoder and audio amp built off the spare I/o pins. Granted, its nothing like a "true" mp3 player.. but then, you made it yourself didnt you?!

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one cent from a guy with no name

[Indoro]

Ido- Nice signature. Almost considered duping it,but I won't for now.

[Housey]

Fairplay, maybe I didn't word that correctly..

But what software will run on the C=One apart from original C=64 software?

what links can you provide other than a mailing list, that'll show it off?

[System]

this is cool, especially since the whole commodore 2000 seems to just be alot of bull. but personally, id rather see someone finish work on the Loki.

[System]

I think this is good news! Jsut think about it, the more C=,Amiga,etc compatible computers, the less wintrash computers! I'm all for it! :pint:
P.S. http://www.geocities.com/cm_easy/ is up and running!

[System]

Yahoo! is such garbage. They should move their site to Easyspace or Fsnet or something.

[spiffydinosaur]

This sounds cool!

Went to the web site has lot of features. To bad no drivers for IDE yet. I like the micro ATX size. Those boards are nice and tiny. that could fit in a book pc easily.

That's just plain cool!

I think my old C64 is under my parents basement stairs. To bad I sold my Vic 20 to buy the C64. Could have added that to my collection.  

[ido]

well, i could find lots of old 386/486 computers to take from the local highschool... they also have some working 14" monitors i can take... that way i'll only have to pay 200$ for the mobo!

BTW
do you think i could put it all (including floopy and HDD) in a shoe box? those old cases i can get for free are to big and to heavy... i want to make it as portable as possible!

[System]

Useless or not, this is a good idea. Hopefully it will sell well and many hobby programmers make some cool apps.

Well done Jerri. It has my thumbs up.  :pint:

[Chathurawind]

But what software will run on the C=One apart from original C=64 software?

Kind of hard to develop for a system that isn't available yet:-D However you can get a good example of what to expect by looking at software written for the C128/64 with a SuperCPU accelerator. Most of the authors of this software have promised C=One versions. So look at these sites below and just remember the C=one version will have better gfx etc.

Metal Dust:
http://www.protovision-online.de/md/mdstart.htm

JOS (now wings)
http://jos.sweetcherrie.com/

The Wave web browser
http://www.ia4u.net/~maurice/gbrowse/wave.html

Wheels OS
http://www.ia4u.net/~maurice/gbrowse/whshots.htm

Lunix(Linux for C=)
http://lng.sourceforge.net/

Or read up and do it yourself, here's an online techie mag called C=Hacking.
http://www.canberra.edu.au/~scott/C=Hacking/Index.html

Don't like online stuff? Here's a glossy color monthly print mag:
http://www.go64.de/english/frames/frame.htm

And finally here is some good general links:
http://www.go64.de/english/frames/links.htm

[PhatAgnus]

Hmmm...this could be an interesting toy. Portability would be a key issue (remember the SX64??).
For now though, emulation is filling the void as far as my ever aging, ever growing phono record database goes!
Anyone know of a quick code to convert the old Celery Software
Datafile databases to say...Digita Int'l Datastore compatables? Perhaps
even a Datastore library or rexx script to read D64 files (or is it T64...?!)
Sorry to toss this into the CommodoreOne chat, just came to mind as a C64 related topic.

[Chathurawind]

20Mhz C64? Man, that rocks! The original CPU, from memory, ran at a fraction of a single Mhz.

AND they've also eliminated the C64's system bottlenecks.

This machine will absolutely fly!

I want one too!

[Rodney]

Do you think this board could be made into a PCI card? That way, you can emulate the OS, with more function ality and at teh CPU speed the underlying processor has.

Much like the optional A1200 you can slot into your A1!!! - Maybe when this gal makes her AmigaOne thingo (if she does, nothing confirmed) maybe you could get that and slot it into your A1 instead of the A1200!!??

I think a PCI option would be more feasable dont you? As it'll be a lot smaller, faster and still provide all the function ality!

OF course new software may have to be writen for it to work under other systems such as PC's or Amiga's. Might encourage more people to purchase it if they can run the C64 games ontop of their WindowsOS or AmigaOS etc...

Not to mention that you'll be able to plug in your new AmigaAGAOne (if thats she calls it into your PC or Apple!

[Chathurawind]

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