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Open Office on Amiga
« on: December 12, 2003, 04:37:30 AM »
I thought since their are threads on Amigaworld and Amiga Inc's forums, I'd start one here, I'm just gonna leave links to the others for now (lazy SOB I am)

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2003, 04:44:14 AM »
Now, that's actually a project that might be worth pursuing!
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2003, 04:46:08 AM »
Oh man .....

That was tried ~2 years ago, but failed (miserably) due to the lack of
dedicated AND good developers. Source is over 100MB PACKED!!,
so better forget it, and concentrate on something realistic   :-(
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2003, 04:56:34 AM »
It's a big job, but it's definately doable assuming there is a AOS4 STLport and working GCC.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2003, 04:58:37 AM »
OpenOffice on Amiga is impossible, just like Mozilla. Why? It uses too much of linux, to put it simply. You'd have to port maybe dozens of external parts OpenOffice uses. Replacing them is pointless: it would be almost as much work as coding a fully featured office from scratch.

Anyone wanting to port it will at very least have to port the GUI kits or wrap them to native GUIs (which don't have all the features you need, so you'd have to implement them manually). Then they'd have to implement APIs and features that AmigaOS doesn't have, the infamous Fork() being the simplest.

It's not a big task - it's an enormous task. There is no-one left who has the time and the skill, and there is too little code infrastructure to help them.
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2003, 05:10:40 AM »
I really think it is more important too port a decent browser first...
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2003, 05:11:07 AM »
KennyR: Nah.. let them try.. At least it keeps them busy for years.   :-P

Not that I might not like to see it running on OS4 and MorphOS, but I really can't expect that to happen in few years. If these systems become  resonably popular (like 10-100 thousand active and knowledgeable users) it'll be possible to find coders etc.. But at this time, not much a chance.
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2003, 07:18:54 AM »
Isn't that like Petition #24693 on WrongPla.net ?

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2003, 02:45:21 PM »
Without a decent Office there will never be  then- a  hundredthousand people using Amiga. So either we try to port a descent Office or make a new one. I think we really should support people trying it. Because it failed once doesn't mean that it has to fail always.
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2003, 03:05:07 PM »
I know that no one wants to hear it can't be done, but I agree with KennyR.

AmigaOS is too far behind, too much not like linux, too much to write from scratch.

My idea for porting a browser, or this, would be just to port a linux environment to AmigaOS.   This has been done before.  

But it doesn't capture the imagination of the public nor other developers, and so, what I thought was the only reasonable path, doesn't appear will ever happen.

oh well, tis ashame.

 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2003, 03:17:41 PM »
If it is less work to write a modern Amiga Office Suite from scratch, why has nobody done it yet?

Why not get some coders together on a new native set of programs rather than try and port the bloated, slow OO ?

I am not much of a programmer so excuse my ignorance in such matters.

I am only going off what others have said. I have no idea how involved a task this would be.

 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2003, 03:22:19 PM »
Ever heard of Papyrus ? And the little fact that Titan allready showed a demo
of the MorphOS-version ? Now, all you "reds" be nice to them and they might
be nice to you  :-o
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2003, 03:24:46 PM »
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Why? It uses too much of linux, to put it simply

I don't see anything Linux'y about the Win32 version...

Aside from that -

OpenOffice and Mozilla (or derivatives) are the most important apps that should be ported to AmigaOS/compatibles.  They provide the 'stepping stones' for any Windows/Linux/Mac user to think about going for AmigaOS/compatibles, something that is familiar to them, and they know satisfies their needs.  They may then decide to try out a more AmigaOS native set of applications afterwards, and they still have that fallback solution.  This is average users or techies I'm talking about.
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2003, 03:25:11 PM »
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GadgetMaster wrote:
If it is less work to write a modern Amiga Office Suite from scratch, why has nobody done it yet?


I guess nobody wants to spend months of their life in hard work with no return, and the only thanks being bug reports, criticisms and their software being pirated to hell.
 

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Re: Open Office on Amiga
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2003, 03:28:54 PM »
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I guess nobody wants to spend months of their life in hard work with no return, and the only thanks being bug reports, criticisms and their software being pirated to hell.
Open source, free software? Pirated to hell? Phaaa...
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