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Title: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 18, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
(http://psytrance.sk/amikit/flowerpot/mediakit/Logo/FlowerPot-logo-disk.png)
Let your AmigaOS4 grow in Flower Pot on Windows or Mac!

(http://psytrance.sk/amikit/flowerpot/mediakit/Infographic/FlowerPot-infographic-small.jpg) (http://amikit.amiga.sk)

www.amikit.amiga.sk (http://www.amikit.amiga.sk)
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: magnetic on February 19, 2017, 05:01:39 AM
Really cool! Love the flyer!
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: darkage on February 19, 2017, 05:20:31 AM
Happy it doesnt require water.. I normally end up killing my plants :)
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: kolla on February 19, 2017, 01:42:12 PM
Running an emulator doesn't exactly save energy.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Acill on February 19, 2017, 03:15:10 PM
Bought both the new Amikit9 for Mac and Flowerpot! Great work on these!

EDIT:
And apparently flowerpot DOES NOT work on the latest version of OSX. All it does when I click on configure or install OS4 is open up a Wine instance and sit with no further actions. I wish you would have put in the description before I bought this that it was just a wine bottle package. If you have a solution to get the installer to actually start I would love to hear it please. Disappointed to say the least.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmigaOldskooler on February 19, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
Installed AmigaOS 4.1 FE on my Windows 10 PC and it worked right out of the box. :) Very nice!
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Acill on February 19, 2017, 04:04:35 PM
The Mac version of flowerpot is very buggy. After going back through and installing the quartz windower again and replacing the required files again, I get the below crash. Please help solve this. Its WinUAE crashing in WINE as you can see.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 19, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Acill;822428
And apparently flowerpot DOES NOT work on the latest version of OSX.
It does and works just fine as it was developed on the latest OSX.

Quote from: Acill;822428
I wish you would have put in the description before I bought this that it was just a wine bottle package.
Both product descriptions mention Wine.

Quote from: Acill;822428
If you have a solution to get the installer to actually start I would love to hear it please.
Support is available at http://forum.amiga.sk
If we don't find a solution to run it on your specific setup, you will be refunded. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Pentad on February 19, 2017, 07:00:42 PM
What version of WINE do these use? I'm running WINE 2.1 (Staging) 64bit for the projects I'm working on and it has been very good. Outside of my work projects, I also run WinUAE, WinVICE, AppleWin, an Atari 800 emulator and some others under this version of WINE.

For WinUAE I'm running 3.4.1 Beta 1 (both 32bit and 64bit).

You can get the WinUAE betas (along with the latest emulator news) here: http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=news

You can get the OS X Staging and Development here (though they are slow at posting links with new versions):

https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/macosx/download.html

or the direct directory for Staging here (as soon as a new build as available):

https://repos.wine-staging.com/macosx/i686/

I think WINE 2.x is very good and the speed is quite nice over 1.x.  MHO of course.  :-)

-P
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Acill on February 19, 2017, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: Pentad;822435
What version of WINE do these use? I'm running WINE 2.1 (Staging) 64bit for the projects I'm working on and it has been very good. Outside of my work projects, I also run WinUAE, WinVICE, AppleWin, an Atari 800 emulator and some others under this version of WINE.

For WinUAE I'm running 3.4.1 Beta 1 (both 32bit and 64bit).

You can get the WinUAE betas (along with the latest emulator news) here: http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=news

You can get the OS X Staging and Development here (though they are slow at posting links with new versions):

https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/macosx/download.html

or the direct directory for Staging here (as soon as a new build as available):

https://repos.wine-staging.com/macosx/i686/

I think WINE 2.x is very good and the speed is quite nice over 1.x.  MHO of course.  :-)

-P



Tried the new version of WINE, the new beta of winuae with no change. I guess it just doesnt like my machine. Its a shame, would love to use this. I have FS-UAE going now and dont like it nearly as much.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 19, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
@Acill

I am sorry to hear that. I sent you a refund.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: nicholas on February 20, 2017, 02:27:02 AM
Quote from: kolla;822426
Running an emulator doesn't exactly save energy.


Sure it does, a modern Intel rig draws far less power than any PPC Amiga even whilst emulating one. ;)
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: JimmiG on February 20, 2017, 08:50:25 AM
Seems to be working fine after the Network update. I was still not able to install the AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 1 automatically, but I was able to download it from the member page at Hyperion.

Of course, PPC/AmigaOS 4 under emulation is still a bit rough around the edges. I experienced a few crashes and freezes, especially when browsing the web, but it works better than when I was trying to set everything up manually. The emulation now has 646 MB of available RAM, which I was never able to achieve myself (network and graphics started acting up at 384 MB for me). It also makes the confusing task of creating the system partition a lot easier (fully automatic).

A few nitpicks: The mouse wheel doesn't work, and 32-bit under WinUAE, Configuration, RTG, is set up wrong so you get pink icons in 32-bit mode. I changed it to A8R8G8B8 and it seems to work.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: kolla on February 20, 2017, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: nicholas;822463
Sure it does, a modern Intel rig draws far less power than any PPC Amiga even whilst emulating one. ;)


Hah! :roflmao:
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Themamboman on February 20, 2017, 02:29:37 PM
"Can't allocate enough memory to load Kernel"

Is anyone else seeing this error?

Attached is an image.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: ne_one on February 20, 2017, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: AmiKit;822448
I am sorry to hear that. I sent you a refund.


Argh... why not just diagnose the issue so that it can be resolved for other buyers?
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 20, 2017, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: ne_one;822502
Argh... why not just diagnose the issue so that it can be resolved for other buyers?

We tried, of course, look at the Support Forum. While it worked for other user with similar issue, it did not work for Acill and he asked for the refund. Simple as that.


@Themamboman please adjust WinUAE RAM settings. If it doesn't help, please refer to the Support Forum at http://forum.amiga.sk Also mention your HW config there. Thanks!
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Pentad on February 20, 2017, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: AmiKit;822448
@Acill

I am sorry to hear that. I sent you a refund.


You guys do a great job so I would not give up so soon.  It could be a simple issue that could be resolved easily.  :-)
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Pentad on February 20, 2017, 09:01:11 PM
@Acill

I would be happy to help.  Could you give me some more information on your Mac?  OS version? XQuartz version? Are you up-to-date on your OS updates?

I also have something else for you to try:

Start WINE Staging
Type winecfg
Click the Staging tab
Uncheck or check this: Enable CSMT for better graphic performance

I have mine checked and I'm running 64bit WINE Staging.  You might try it off to see if it makes any difference.  I read on the WINE forums that it was causing issues for some folks.

-P
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: zylesea on February 20, 2017, 09:40:00 PM
@ amikit

Your website is kind of bugged and blown. Does not run on Odyssey.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 20, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: zylesea;822510
@ amikit Your website is kind of bugged and blown. Does not run on Odyssey.

Thanks. I forwarded your report to our Odyssey team.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: klesterjr on February 21, 2017, 02:40:58 AM
Quote from: AmiKit;822515
Thanks. I forwarded your report to our Odyssey team.


Heh, heh.  :)

Actually, it works fine on Odyssey (albeit slowly) -- just takes a while to load.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: pVC on February 21, 2017, 06:26:39 AM
I also get an empty page with Odyssey, doesn't seem to be loading anymore in that situation (no CPU usage, no network activity). Tried couple of times...
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 21, 2017, 10:53:40 AM
Due to huge demand our team of three headed monkeys has prepared a fully compatible website: http://www.amigabrowser.amiga.sk
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: klesterjr on February 21, 2017, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: pVC;822527
I also get an empty page with Odyssey, doesn't seem to be loading anymore in that situation (no CPU usage, no network activity). Tried couple of times...

Just tried again on the X5000 and it works fine. However, when I try it on WinUAE it just shows a white screen. Hmmm ...

Edit: Apparently, the website requires javascript (I had it turned off) -- so it DOES work on 4.1 Classic on WinUAE (although very slowly, as I said before).
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: zylesea on February 21, 2017, 02:08:13 PM
Well, I think Amiga is about beauty through efficience. IHMO that should be true for the web, too. All these bloated sites are (technically) ugly and waste resources.
Not my taste.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 21, 2017, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: zylesea;822538
Well, I think Amiga is about beauty through efficience. IHMO that should be true for the web, too. All these bloated sites are (technically) ugly and waste resources. Not my taste.

And that's exactly why we created the new website for you. Very efficient and not resource hungry. At all. Actually a vegan among websites! :banana:
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Pentad on February 21, 2017, 07:14:21 PM
Just an FYI:  WINE 2.2 Development is out today.  :-)  WINE 2.2 Staging should not be far behind.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: gunni on February 21, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
@amikit worked great for me! thanks!
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Ancalimon on February 23, 2017, 12:54:56 AM
Can't buy it. We no longer have paypal in Turkey.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: ne_one on February 23, 2017, 03:41:06 AM
Quote from: AmiKit;822506
We tried, of course, look at the Support Forum. While it worked for other user with similar issue, it did not work for Acill and he asked for the refund. Simple as that.


Ok, fair enough - must be an exceptional situation.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: AmiKit on February 23, 2017, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: Ancalimon;822596
Can't buy it. We no longer have paypal in Turkey.

Ah, Turkey. Tell me your email address (via PM) and I will send you a free link.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: slygon on February 26, 2017, 02:50:26 AM
I bought both of these products!  FlowerPot works perfectly on my new MacBook Pro (with touch bar)!

I am having some issues with AmiKit 9... but I think it is just something I need to figure out...

Keep up the good work!

Thanks!

-Slygon
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: apsturk on February 26, 2017, 12:58:28 PM
@slygon

I am glad to see you learning and expanding you knowledge. I like Flower Pot a great deal. I have yet to install AmiKit 9.  I am working on video showing the install process for Flower Pot.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: slygon on February 27, 2017, 03:04:32 AM
Nice!

The videos always help!

AmiKit 9 installs easily, but I am no expert at getting the networking, or the screen resolution figured out.... so I have more playing to do.....

-Slygon
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Nearly-Right on April 12, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Is the system requirement information correct in that Flower Pot requires 8 GB of RAM to run it on a Windows XP SP3 system?

Many Windows XP SP3 systems were, like mine, based on P4 technology, and there was no option to have more than 2GB on such a 32-bit system, and in any case how much RAM should it need a PC to have to emulate 32MB? It's beyond me, in these days of technology, that modern hardware cannot emulate a retro system that had very low hardware overheads and yet a 'modern' PC has to have such fast quad-core, 8GB RAM in the hardware to be able to get the 'low-tech' superior system of the Amiga OS to function on a high-spec PC or Mac system. It's a mystery!

Also, I too use OWB on MorphOS, and the main AmiKit site is a 'blank' page, as for others, which as the site is for an emulation of Amiga, it might be good to have a more compatible main website page for more Amiga systems, as they are where many of the emulated OS users came from in the first place, aren't they?

I find it irritating that AmiKit is inaccessible for 'real' Amiga, even NG, systems, and I consider MorphOS to be one of those, as many others do too.
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: amyren on April 12, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Nearly-Right;824438
Is the system requirement information correct in that Flower Pot requires 8 GB of RAM to run it on a Windows XP SP3 system?

Many Windows XP SP3 systems were, like mine, based on P4 technology, and there was no option to have more than 2GB on such a 32-bit system, and in any case how much RAM should it need a PC to have to emulate 32MB? It's beyond me, in these days of technology, that modern hardware cannot emulate a retro system that had very low hardware overheads and yet a 'modern' PC has to have such fast quad-core, 8GB RAM in the hardware to be able to get the 'low-tech' superior system of the Amiga OS to function on a high-spec PC or Mac system. It's a mystery!

Also, I too use OWB on MorphOS, and the main AmiKit site is a 'blank' page, as for others, which as the site is for an emulation of Amiga, it might be good to have a more compatible main website page for more Amiga systems, as they are where many of the emulated OS users came from in the first place, aren't they?

I find it irritating that AmiKit is inaccessible for 'real' Amiga, even NG, systems, and I consider MorphOS to be one of those, as many others do too.

I dont know where you read the 8GB requirement. It says 4GB in that windows pdf instructions  document found on the flowerpot webpage.
Besides, Flower Pot is for emulating an OS4 capable computer and not the retro computer system with 32MB ram that you mention.
If you want to emulate the retro computer version of AmiKit, you should try the free Amikit version 8. I think you will find it will run with lower requirements.

And, AmiKit is available for real amigas, although unofficially. Take a look at http://real.amiga.sk/
Title: Re: Flower Pot released
Post by: Nearly-Right on April 14, 2017, 03:25:14 AM
That must be part of my point - if the NG Amigas were able to access a webpage that relates to the Amiga, as the documentation related to Flower Pot, has to be accessed by a web browser that is alien to the Amiga, it seems.

I saw information that stated 8GB is the threshold, but 4GB is still 2GB too much, as the most a P4 Win XP SP3 32-bit system can have on-board is 2GB in any case, so buying it to emulate a PPC based Amiga NG that might anyway, as a CyberStorm PPC A4000 system, only have 128MB system memory anyway, so it seems, at this point, to be of no interest to me, if that information is correct.